A tricky trigonometric problem

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The problem involves a cubic equation with trigonometric components, specifically examining the roots of the equation and their relationships. The original poster attempts to show that x=1 is a root and to factor the cubic equation, leading to a discussion about the roots being 1, cos(θ), and sin(θ). The task also includes finding values of θ where two roots are equal and determining the greatest difference between the roots.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the validity of the original poster's method for finding roots and whether the roots sin(θ) and cos(θ) are the only ones of interest. There are questions about how to calculate the difference between the roots and the conditions under which two roots are equal.

Discussion Status

Participants have engaged in verifying the original poster's calculations and reasoning. Some have suggested focusing on specific roots while others have raised questions about the conditions for equality among the roots. There is a recognition of multiple interpretations regarding the roots and their differences, but no explicit consensus has been reached.

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There are discussions about the constraints of the problem, including the specified range for θ and the implications of the trigonometric identities involved. Participants are also considering the implications of the roots being equal and the maximum difference between them.

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Homework Statement


A cubic equation is given as:
##x^{3} -(1+\cos \theta +\sin \theta)x^{2} +(\cos \theta \sin \theta +\cos \theta +\sin \theta)x-\sin \theta \cos \theta=0##

Show that x=1 is a root of the equation for all values of θ and deduce that x-1 is a factor to the above equation.

Hence, by factoring the cubic equation above, show that
##(x-1)[x^{2}-(\cos \theta +\sin \theta)x+\cos \theta \sin \theta]=0##

and the roots are given by
##1, \cos \theta, \sin \theta##
Write down the roots of the equation given that ##\theta=\frac{\pi}{3}##

Find all values of ##\theta## in the range ##0<=\theta<2\pi## such that two of the three roots are equal.

By considering ##\sin \theta -\cos \theta##, or otherwise, determine the greatest possible difference between the two roots, and find the values of ##\theta## for ##0<=\theta<2\pi## for which the two roots have the greatest difference.

Homework Equations


Factor theorem, trigonometric equations

The Attempt at a Solution


For the first part, I have plugged in x=1 and found that it is 0. Then I deduced that (x-1) is a factor.

I factored the cubic above and factored the quadratic, and the roots are 1, ##\cos \theta## and ##\sin \theta##. Then I plugged in ##\theta=\frac{\pi}{3}## and found out the solutions are
##1, \frac{1}{2}, \frac{sqrt{3}}{2}##. Is it correct?

Since the two roots are equal, therefore I set the following equations:
##\cos \theta =1##
##\sin \theta=1##
##\cos \theta=\sin \theta##

The values were found out to be 0, ##\frac{\pi}{4}##, ##\frac{\pi}{2}## and ##\frac{5\pi}{4}##. Hopefully I did not make any mistakes here... :P

For the last part, I need to consider ##\sin \theta-\cos \theta##. But how do I find the difference between the two roots?
 
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Is it correct?
I cannot fault your method - did not check your arithmetic though.
I suspect that the only roots they want to be the same are the sin and cos ones - so you have overkill.

...how do I find the difference between the two roots?
If one root is a and the other is b, then the difference between the roots is |a-b|.
In your case the difference will depend on the angle.
 
Simon Bridge said:
I cannot fault your method - did not check your arithmetic though.
I suspect that the only roots they want to be the same are the sin and cos ones - so you have overkill.


If one root is a and the other is b, then the difference between the roots is |a-b|.
In your case the difference will depend on the angle.

Could it be 2?
 
Did you sketch out the graph of each root vs angle?
 
Yup. One is sqrt(2), and another two is 2.
 
Simon Bridge said:
I cannot fault your method - did not check your arithmetic though.
I suspect that the only roots they want to be the same are the sin and cos ones - so you have overkill.

No. there are three roots, 1, sinθ, cosθ, any pair of them can be equal.

Find all values of θ in the range 0<=θ<2π such that two of the three roots are equal.

ehild
 
sooyong94 said:
Yup. One is sqrt(2), and another two is 2.

I think, here you really need only the roots cosθ and sinθ. You are right, the greatest difference between them is √ 2.

ehild
 
ehild said:
I think, here you really need only the roots cosθ and sinθ. You are right, the greatest difference between them is √ 2.

ehild

Wasn't it should be 2? Since ##\sin \theta =1## and ##\cos \theta=1##?
 
For what values of ##\theta## is ##|\sin\theta-\cos\theta | = 2##?
 
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sooyong94 said:
Wasn't it should be 2? Since ##\sin \theta =1## and ##\cos \theta=1##?

sin2θ+cos2θ=1. Can both of them have magnitude 1?

ehild
 

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