A4 Subset of S4: Artin 6.2 Question

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The problem involves relating the tetrahedral group, denoted as A4, to the symmetric group S4 through the context of tetrahedra inscribed in a cube. The original poster seeks to understand how these groups are connected in terms of symmetry and inclusion.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the isomorphism between the tetrahedral group and A4, and the full symmetry group of the tetrahedron as S4. There are attempts to clarify the relationship between these groups and the symmetries of the cube.

Discussion Status

The discussion is exploring various interpretations of the problem. Some participants are questioning the clarity of the original question, while others are attempting to establish connections between the groups and the symmetries of the tetrahedra within the cube.

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There is a focus on the symmetries of the cube and how they relate to the tetrahedra, with specific attention to the types of rotations and their effects on the tetrahedra. Participants are considering the implications of these symmetries in the context of group theory.

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Homework Statement



A question from artin 6.2:
Two tetrahedra can be inscribed into a cube C, each one using half the vertices. Relate this to
the inclusion A4 is a subset of S4.

The Attempt at a Solution



I can only think that the tetrahedral group is isomorphic to A4, and the cube is isomorphic to S4. And since you can fit two tetrahedra in a cube, this would imply that A4 is a subset of S4.

Is this correct?

Thanks
 
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If I can show that the group of rotational symmetries of a tetrahedron is A4 and the full group of symmetries of a tetrahedron is S4, then I can conclude that A4 is a subset of S4.

Does this approach satisfy the question?
 
I guess I don't understand what the question is even really asking. Isn't A4 defined to be a subset of S4?
 
Yeah, but I have to link A4 subset of S4 with the tetrahedra somehow.
 
consider all the symmetries that map a cube to itself. these either map the two tetrahedra to themselves, or to each other.

identify A4 with the symmetries of the cube that map the 2 tetrahedra back into themselves.

for example, a 90 rotation along the x,y or z-axis (assuming the cube is aligned with these), swaps the 2 tetrahedra, and a 180 degree rotation preserves them. the "corner diagonal" rotations all preserve the 2 tetrahedra (they just rotate around a vertex from each of the 2 tetrahedra), while the "midpoint diagonal" rotations swap the tetrahedra.

one can view a symmetry of the cube as a permutation of it's 4 main diagonals. in this case, a 90 degree rotation is a 4-cycle (d1 d2 d3 d4) for example, a 120 degree rotation about a main diagonal is a 3-cycle (d2 d3 d4) for example, and an 180 degree rotation about a midpoint diagonal is a 2-cycle (d3 d4) for example.

a main diagonal corresponds to opposite vertex pairs (one from each tetrahedron). so a transposition of diagonals, swaps the tetrahedra. even permutations consist of pairs of transpositions, each of which swap the tetrahedra, so even permutations preserve the pair of tetrahedra.
 

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