Proving the Isomorphism between Group G and A4: A Scientist's Perspective

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The discussion revolves around proving the isomorphism between a group G of order 12 and the alternating group A4. Key points include the existence of a normal subgroup of order 3 in G, the properties of its normalizer N(a), and the implications of Cayley's theorem. Participants clarify that A4 has 12 elements, not 13, and explore the conditions under which G can be isomorphic to A4, particularly focusing on the center of G and the absence of normal subgroups of order 3.

PREREQUISITES
  • Group theory fundamentals, including normal subgroups and conjugates.
  • Cayley's theorem and its application in group homomorphisms.
  • Understanding of the structure and properties of the alternating group A4.
  • Knowledge of group orders and their implications in group isomorphisms.
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  • Study the properties of normal subgroups in finite groups.
  • Learn about the structure and elements of the alternating group A4.
  • Explore Cayley's theorem in depth, focusing on its applications in proving isomorphisms.
  • Investigate the classification of groups of small orders, particularly those of order 12.
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This discussion is beneficial for mathematicians, particularly those specializing in abstract algebra, group theory, and anyone interested in understanding the isomorphism between finite groups.

  • #31
Tnx man...But I still don't think this is what we should do ...There must be another way to prove the iso. between A4 and G...maybe something about the order of the images in the homo.? A proprety we're missing?

I really don't know :(
 
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  • #32
You KNOW the order of the image of the homomorphism in S4. It's 12. You should be able to prove that's A4 one way or another. I outlined one way.
 
  • #33
Sry I made you mad :(

TNX a lot for your help so far...You've helped a lot!
 
  • #34
No problem, I just think you should buckle down and try to prove a subgroup of S4 of order 12 is A4, I don't think it's that hard.
 

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