Proving the Isomorphism between Group G and A4: A Scientist's Perspective

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The problem involves group theory, specifically examining a group G of order 12 and its properties related to normal subgroups and isomorphism with the alternating group A4. The original poster seeks to prove that a certain element b is in the center of G and to establish an isomorphism between G and A4 under specific conditions.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the implications of the order of group G and its normal subgroups, questioning the validity of assumptions regarding the order of A4. There is exploration of how to apply Cayley's theorem to establish a homomorphism and the conditions under which it may be injective.

Discussion Status

Participants have provided insights into the properties of normal subgroups and the structure of G, with some suggesting that the original poster clarify their earlier proofs. There is ongoing exploration of the implications of the center of G and the relationship between G and A4, with no explicit consensus reached yet.

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The discussion highlights confusion regarding the order of elements and subgroups, particularly concerning the relationship between G and A4, as well as the implications of the center's order on the structure of G.

  • #31
Tnx man...But I still don't think this is what we should do ...There must be another way to prove the iso. between A4 and G...maybe something about the order of the images in the homo.? A proprety we're missing?

I really don't know :(
 
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  • #32
You KNOW the order of the image of the homomorphism in S4. It's 12. You should be able to prove that's A4 one way or another. I outlined one way.
 
  • #33
Sry I made you mad :(

TNX a lot for your help so far...You've helped a lot!
 
  • #34
No problem, I just think you should buckle down and try to prove a subgroup of S4 of order 12 is A4, I don't think it's that hard.
 

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