Understanding Finite Abelian Subgroups of GL(n, C)

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The discussion revolves around the characteristics and structure of finite abelian subgroups of GL(n, C), particularly for n greater than 1. Participants are exploring the nature of these subgroups, questioning the validity of conjectures regarding their elements, and referencing relevant theorems and concepts from algebra.

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  • Participants are examining the conjecture that finite abelian subgroups consist solely of diagonal matrices, with some arguing against this by providing counterexamples. Others reference theorems related to the center of GL(n, C) and discuss implications of irreducible representations.

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The conversation is ongoing, with participants providing insights and counterexamples. Some have expressed confusion regarding the implications of certain results, while others are attempting to clarify their understanding of the relationship between representations and the structure of abelian subgroups.

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There is mention of specific results from algebra texts, including Schur's lemma, and discussions about the nature of irreducible representations and their implications for the elements of finite abelian subgroups.

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How do finite abelian subgroups of GL(n, C) with n > 1 look like ?
I would say the elements of those subgroups are only the diagonal matrixes but I am not sure (for my homework I do not have to prove it but I want to use this result if it is true).

GL(n, C) are all the invertible matrixes over the complex numbers of size n by n.
 
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Your conjecture is clearly false. Pick any non-diagonal matrix: it generates an abelian subgroup. (My first response was answering the wrong question - I hope you didn't catch it in the 5 seconds it was posted.)

and of course, given any subgroup, any conjugate set of matrices is an isomorphic subgroup, and diagonal matrices are not closed under conjugation (only scalar ones, where all diagonal entries are the same are).
 
wait a minute, one of my algebra books mention this as a theorem I think. I ll have a look at it.

edit: well, they only say something about the center.
 
hmm, thanks for the info Matt. I thought I tackled the original question but I have to look at it again I am afraid.
 
Big appologies but the abelian subgroup has to be finite.
In that case I do really think it is true
 
Again that is clearly false. Find some simple examples, like C_2, the group with 2 elements. It's even false over the integers, never mind C.

The center of GL(C,n) is the set of scalar matrices, that is the result you're thinking of.
 
:frown:

an easy counterexample is indeed the group generated by the square matrix

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I wonder if thinking in terms of eigenvectors and eigenvalues will lead to a complete solution.
 
Perhaps...

look, any finite abelian subgroup of GL(n,C) is a representation of that group - this is completely reducible, hence all the matrices are simultaneously diagonalizable.
 
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I got a result in my book which says I am partly right.

Given an irreducible representation X : G -> GL(n, C). Suppose that a square matrix M commutes with X(g) for every g in G. Then M = cI with c a scalar.

I can use this very well in my homework.

thanks for your help anyway Matt. Appreciated
 
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Ultraworld said:
I got a result in my book which says I am partly right.

in what sense?

Given an irreducible representation X : G -> GL(n, C). Suppose that a square matrix M commutes with X(g) for every g in G. Then M = cI with c a scalar.


This is Schur's lemma, and has nothing to do with your original question, as far as I can tell, which asked what the abelian subgroups of GL(n,C) are. As I told you, they are subgroups *conjugate* to diagonal matrices.
 
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yes but now in my exercise I have that the elements of the image are of the form cI for a scalar c in C. Exactly what I want cause now I got my contradiction.
 
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What? I am confused. The only map you wrote down was an irrep X:G-->GL(n,C). It is certainly not the case that the image of X must be in the scalar matrices. Note that if you restrict G to being abelian then the only irreducible representations are 1-dimensional (i.e. n=1 necessarily).

Please, state clearly what you want to show, and what you think you have shown.
 
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