Absolute and conditional convergence of series (1 + x/n)^n^2

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The discussion revolves around the convergence properties of the series \(\sum_{n=1}^{\infty} (1 + \frac{x}{n})n^2\). Participants are exploring the conditions under which the series converges absolutely, conditionally, or diverges, focusing on the application of convergence tests.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the use of the root test and the ratio test to analyze convergence, with some expressing confusion over the simplification of expressions. Questions arise regarding the limits involved in these tests and the implications of negative values of \(x\).

Discussion Status

There is an ongoing exploration of the limits related to the nth root and the ratio test. Some participants have provided insights into the behavior of the series as \(n\) approaches infinity, while others are questioning the correctness of their calculations and assumptions.

Contextual Notes

Participants are grappling with the implications of negative values of \(x\) on the convergence tests and the need for clarity on the behavior of the series under these conditions.

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Homework Statement



\sum from n=1 to n=\infty (1 + \frac{x}{n})n2

Determine the values of x for which the series converges absolutely, converges conditionally and diverges.

The Attempt at a Solution



So i tried using the root test for the absolute value of (1 + \frac{x}{n})n2, but it was inconclusive.

So then I tried using the ratio test, but I need to simplify this:

|1 + \frac{x}{n+1}|(n+1)2 / |1 + \frac{x}{n}|n2

and I have no idea how to simplify this.

I don't know any other tests that we could use for this, so I'm just pretty stumped.

Any help would be great.
 
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I don't think the root test is all that inconclusive. What is the nth root of your expression?
 
So what I got was:

nth-root(|1 + \frac{x}{n}|n2 ) = [nth-root(|1 + \frac{x}{n}|n )]2 = |1 + \frac{x}{n}|2 = (1+ \frac{x}{n})2

So the limit of this as n goes to infinity would be 1, and that means the test is inconclusive no?

Unless I did something wrong?
 
Oh wait, that's not right.

nth-root(|1 + x/n|n2) = |1 + x/n|n2/n = |1 + x/n|n

But what does that go to when n goes to infinity?

I don't think I know how to compute that?
 
looserlama said:
So what I got was:

nth-root(|1 + \frac{x}{n}|n2 ) = [nth-root(|1 + \frac{x}{n}|n )]2 = |1 + \frac{x}{n}|2 = (1+ \frac{x}{n})2

So the limit of this as n goes to infinity would be 1, and that means the test is inconclusive no?

Unless I did something wrong?

Yes, it's completely wrong. Your rules of exponents are pretty messed up. The nth root of a is a^(1/n). What's (a^(n^2))^(1/n)?
 
looserlama said:
Oh wait, that's not right.

nth-root(|1 + x/n|n2) = |1 + x/n|n2/n = |1 + x/n|n

But what does that go to when n goes to infinity?

I don't think I know how to compute that?

I think you've probably seen that limit before. It's related to the exponential function. If not then you can work it by taking the log and using l'Hopital's theorem.
 
Dick said:
I think you've probably seen that limit before. It's related to the exponential function. If not then you can work it by taking the log and using l'Hopital's theorem.

Oh wow, I feel like an idiot now, haha.

Yea I know that limit n\rightarrow\infty(1 + x/n)n = ex, but (1 + x/n)n doesn't necessarily equal |1 + x/n|n does it? What if x is a large negative number?

I showed it using logarithms as you said, but I was just wondering about that?
 
looserlama said:
Oh wow, I feel like an idiot now, haha.

Yea I know that limit n\rightarrow\infty(1 + x/n)n = ex, but (1 + x/n)n doesn't necessarily equal |1 + x/n|n does it? What if x is a large negative number?

I showed it using logarithms as you said, but I was just wondering about that?

If x is a large negative number, then if n>|x|, 1+x/n is still a positive number. When you are doing limits you only have to worry about n very large.
 

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