AC supply - Signal generator - CRO in circuits

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The discussion focuses on using a signal generator to change the frequency of an AC supply for an experiment involving peak current measurement through a coil. Participants clarify that the signal generator is essential for adjusting frequency and that it can be connected to an AC source. For current measurement, it is established that AC ammeters do not oscillate and typically display RMS values unless specified otherwise. The conversation emphasizes the importance of understanding the role of the signal generator and the correct measurement techniques for AC circuits.

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Hello,
This problem is about a.c. I am used to simply using basic a.c. supply symbol in circuit diagrams.

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Here, I need to draw the set-up for an experiment where I can change the frequency of the supply (not the voltage) and see how this affect the peak current through a coil.

how can i change the frequency and how do I measure it. I have never drawn circuits like that. Will the signal generator be part of the circuit or is it simply connected to the a.c. alone?

also, how would I measure the current. Won't an ammeter's pointer keep on oscillating or will I have the rms value? or should I use a cro?

I do not have any apparatus to try this, nor can I find any explanation about this in books?
 

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PhysicStud01 said:
how can i change the frequency and how do I measure it. I have never drawn circuits like that. Will the signal generator be part of the circuit or is it simply connected to the a.c. alone?

also, how would I measure the current. Won't an ammeter's pointer keep on oscillating or will I have the rms value? or should I use a cro?

Your questions are not about circuits, but the signal generator and the ammeter.

When you see the signal generator, there will be a knob or some other adjustment for frequency.

AC ammeters do not vibrate. There are many ways to measure DC and AC current. Read about them here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ammeter
 
anorlunda said:
Your questions are not about circuits, but the signal generator and the ammeter.

When you see the signal generator, there will be a knob or some other adjustment for frequency.

AC ammeters do not vibrate. There are many ways to measure DC and AC current. Read about them here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ammeter
in a circuit diagram, how do I show this?
 
There are no univeral symbols for those. You try a sketch and post it here with the UPLOAD button.
 
should there be a signal generator connected to the ac supply or can we obtain the frequency directly from an a.c supply?
 
anorlunda said:
Here is a picture of a typical variable frequency source. It needs to be connected to a source. Some models use a DC source, some use an AC source. You could show a picture like this on the schematic rather than a symbol.

AC-Power-Source-RK5000-Variable-frequency-power-supply-Power-500W.jpg

I found the picture using this link
https://www.google.com/search?tbm=i...g...0..0j35i39j0i30j0i5i30j0i8i30.j8-jqMnYcbk
thanks. So, I can use this independently, without a signal generator or cro to find the frequency?
 

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PhysicStud01 said:
without a signal generator

It is a signal generator. You set the frequency with knobs.
 
anorlunda said:
It is a signal generator. You set the frequency with knobs.
thanks. but are the values for V and I displayed on this generator rms values or peak values
 
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It is usually safe to assume that AC measurements are displayed as RMS values, unless stated otherwise.
 

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