The discussion centers on the treatment of accelerated observers within the framework of special relativity, questioning whether it is possible to address this topic without resorting to the mathematical language of general relativity. Participants explore the implications of acceleration on observations and measurements in special relativity.
Participants express differing views on the role of acceleration in special relativity. While some argue that acceleration can be addressed within special relativity, others maintain that it is a limitation of the theory. The discussion remains unresolved, with multiple competing perspectives present.
Participants reference various effects of acceleration, such as changes in simultaneity and the behavior of clocks, but the discussion does not reach a consensus on how these effects should be mathematically treated within special relativity.
I didn't say that it's wrong. It's not. I just explained what t0 is because you didn't.Nedeljko said:Yes, I know that t_0 is the moment in the system S. But, what is wrong. I have think that it is correct formula for the proper time of bird i.e. time of the bird's clock from its pocket (the clock flying together with the bird). If this formula is incorrect what is correct.
Yes, JesseM explained it very well.Nedeljko said:Yes, I know it, and I am expected this question. It is related to this remark:
I'm not sure exactly what you mean by "the same ideas", but it clearly doesn't matter what frame you use to compute something coordinate independent like "proper time".Nedeljko said:I am interesting for following: If I use the same ideas for computing frame-invariant quantities in another examples, can I obtain incorrect results?
Fredrik said:I'm not sure exactly what you mean by "the same ideas", but it clearly doesn't matter what frame you use to compute something coordinate independent like "proper time".