Accelerated Pendulum Frequency: g-a vs g+a

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The discussion clarifies the frequency of a pendulum under acceleration, specifically addressing the confusion between upward acceleration of the pendulum versus the peg. The oscillation equation \(\ddot{\theta} + \frac{g}{l}\theta = 0\) indicates that the frequency is proportional to \(\sqrt{\frac{g}{l}}\). When the peg accelerates upward at acceleration \(a\), the effective downward acceleration experienced by the pendulum is \((g + a)\), leading to the frequency formula \(\omega = \sqrt{\frac{g+a}{l}}\). This explanation highlights the role of pseudo forces in non-inertial reference frames.

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Assume a pendulum, a mass M attached to a massless rod, which is oscillating in small angle. According to the oscillating equation

[tex]\ddot{\theta} + \frac{g}{l}\theta = 0[/tex]

We find that the frequency is proportional to [tex]\sqrt{g/l}[/tex]. Now if the pendulum is accelerated upward at acceleration [tex]a[/tex], since [tex]a[/tex] is along the opposite direction as the gravity [tex]g[/tex], the frequency of the accelerated pendulum should be

[tex]\omega = \sqrt{\frac{g-a}{l}}[/tex]

why in textbook, in said the frequency becomes [tex]\omega = \sqrt{\frac{g+a}{l}}[/tex]?
 
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Aha! Actually, it is not the pendulum that is accelerated upwards! It is the peg that is holding the pendulum that is accelerated. So the pendulum itself experiences a pseudo force downwards.

If you stand in an elevator and it accelerates at "a" then your weight
as you would experience will be m(g+a), because ma downwards is the pseudo force.

Pendulum is no different: the effective downward acceleration of the pendulum of mass m is (mg + pseudo force)/m = (mg + ma)/m = (g+a).

Makes sense?
 
sai_2008 said:
Aha! Actually, it is not the pendulum that is accelerated upwards! It is the peg that is holding the pendulum that is accelerated. So the pendulum itself experiences a pseudo force downwards.

If you stand in an elevator and it accelerates at "a" then your weight
as you would experience will be m(g+a), because ma downwards is the pseudo force.

Pendulum is no different: the effective downward acceleration of the pendulum of mass m is (mg + pseudo force)/m = (mg + ma)/m = (g+a).

Makes sense?

Yes, it makes sense.
 

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