Acceleration of fluid particle

In summary: You're absolutely right, I was indeed wrong. I must have misread the notation or something. Many thanks for the help.
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Homework Statement



Find acceleration for a general point (x, y) at time t, in the velocity field u = (y, t-x)

Homework Equations



Du/Dt = ∂u/∂t + (u⋅∇)u

The Attempt at a Solution



u/∂t = (0, 1)

(u⋅∇)u = [(y, t-x)⋅(∂/∂x, ∂/∂y)](y, t-x)

= (0 + 0)(y, t-x) = (0, 0)

Thus Du/Dt = ∂u/∂t + (u⋅∇)u = (0, 1) + (0, 0)

= (0, 1)

It seems correct but my lecturer has given a different example, for a different problem, in which he draws out the entire process (presumably for the sake of letting students follow every tiny step) but I think there are typos in his work and it's really confusing things for me. So I've stuck with what I believe to be correct, but would like to run it by you guys to see if things are all ok.

Thanks!

For reference, my lecturer's example is here - http://www1.maths.leeds.ac.uk/~kersale/2620/Examples/sol1.pdf - The part on the final page.

It looks like he's written ∂/∂x in far too many places...?
 
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No, what your lecturer did is correct. Perhaps what you are missing is that [itex]\vec{u}\cdot\nabla[/itex], with [itex]\vec{u}= u\vec{i}+ v\vec{j}[/itex] is equal to [itex]u\frac{\partial }{\partial x}+ v\frac{\partial}{\partial y}[/itex] and that, being a scalar operator "multiplied" by [itex]\vec{u}= u\vec{I}+ v\vec{j}[/itex] is "multiplied" by both u and v: [tex](\vec{u}\cdot\nabla)\vec{u}= \left(\vec{u}\cdot\nabla(u\vec{i}+ v\vec{j})\right)+ \left(\vec{v}\cdot\nabla(u\vec{i}+ v\vec{j})\right)[/tex]
[tex]= \left(u\frac{\partial u}{\partial x}+ u\frac{\partial u}{\partial y}\right)+ \left(v\frac{\partial u}{\partial x}+ v\frac{\partial u}{\partial y}\right)+ \left(u\frac{\partial v}{\partial x}+ u\frac{\partial v}{\partial y}\right)+ \left(v\frac{\partial v}{\partial x}+ v\frac{\partial v}{\partial y}\right)[/tex].
 
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HallsofIvy said:
No, what your lecturer did is correct. Perhaps what you are missing is that [itex]\vec{u}\cdot\nabla[/itex], with [itex]\vec{u}= u\vec{i}+ v\vec{j}[/itex] is equal to [itex]u\frac{\partial }{\partial x}+ v\frac{\partial}{\partial y}[/itex] and that, being a scalar operator "multiplied" by [itex]\vec{u}= u\vec{I}+ v\vec{j}[/itex] is "multiplied" by both u and v: [tex](\vec{u}\cdot\nabla)\vec{u}= \left(\vec{u}\cdot\nabla(u\vec{i}+ v\vec{j})\right)+ \left(\vec{v}\cdot\nabla(u\vec{i}+ v\vec{j})\right)[/tex]
[tex]= \left(u\frac{\partial u}{\partial x}+ u\frac{\partial u}{\partial y}\right)+ \left(v\frac{\partial u}{\partial x}+ v\frac{\partial u}{\partial y}\right)+ \left(u\frac{\partial v}{\partial x}+ u\frac{\partial v}{\partial y}\right)+ \left(v\frac{\partial v}{\partial x}+ v\frac{\partial v}{\partial y}\right)[/tex].

Thanks for the reply.

I'm a little confused though. I can't see how you get this bit:

[tex](\vec{u}\cdot\nabla)\vec{u}= \left(\vec{u}\cdot\nabla(u\vec{i}+ v\vec{j})\right)+ \left(\vec{v}\cdot\nabla(u\vec{i}+ v\vec{j})\right)[/tex]And, regarding the the final result:

[tex]= \left(u\frac{\partial u}{\partial x}+ u\frac{\partial u}{\partial y}\right)+ \left(v\frac{\partial u}{\partial x}+ v\frac{\partial u}{\partial y}\right)+ \left(u\frac{\partial v}{\partial x}+ u\frac{\partial v}{\partial y}\right)+ \left(v\frac{\partial v}{\partial x}+ v\frac{\partial v}{\partial y}\right)[/tex]

Is there a way of writing that in vector form?

One thing I did notice is that I messed up by forgetting that in (u⋅∇) , ∂/∂x is not commutative, so I was doing (∇⋅u)u, which is different.

So now I'm getting

(u⋅∇)u = (ux, uu)⋅(∂/∂x, ∂/∂y) (ux + uy)
= (ux∂/∂x + uy∂/∂y) (ux + uy)
= (ux∂(ux)/∂x + ux∂(uy)/∂x + uy∂(ux)/∂y + uy∂(uy)/∂y)

Which I then apply to the given velocity field u = (y, t-x), to get:

Du/Dt = ∂u/∂t + (u⋅∇)u

= (0, 1) + (y ∂/∂x + (t-x) ∂/∂y) * (y, t-x)
= (0, 1) + (y ∂(y)/∂x + (t-x)∂(y)/∂y, y ∂(t-x)/∂x + (t-x)∂(t-x)/∂y)
= (0, 1) + ( 0 + t-x , -y + 0)

= (t-x, 1-y)

Have I gone wrong here?

I've found this on wikipedia, which seems to reflect the same process I've just used:

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Thanks.
 
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HallsofIvy said:
No, what your lecturer did is correct. Perhaps what you are missing is that [itex]\vec{u}\cdot\nabla[/itex], with [itex]\vec{u}= u\vec{i}+ v\vec{j}[/itex] is equal to [itex]u\frac{\partial }{\partial x}+ v\frac{\partial}{\partial y}[/itex] and that, being a scalar operator "multiplied" by [itex]\vec{u}= u\vec{I}+ v\vec{j}[/itex] is "multiplied" by both u and v: [tex](\vec{u}\cdot\nabla)\vec{u}= \left(\vec{u}\cdot\nabla(u\vec{i}+ v\vec{j})\right)+ \left(\vec{v}\cdot\nabla(u\vec{i}+ v\vec{j})\right)[/tex]

Something's gone wrong here. If [itex]\mathbf{u} = (u,v)[/itex] with respect to cartesian coordinates [itex](x,y)[/itex] then indeed [tex]\mathbf{u} \cdot \nabla = u \frac{\partial}{\partial x} + v \frac{\partial}{\partial y}[/tex] but [tex]
(\mathbf{u} \cdot \nabla)\mathbf{u} = \left( u \frac{\partial u}{\partial x} + v \frac{\partial u}{\partial y}, u \frac{\partial v}{\partial x} + v \frac{\partial v}{\partial y} \right)[/tex] and hence [tex]
\frac{D\mathbf{u}}{Dt} = \left(\frac{\partial u}{\partial t} + u \frac{\partial u}{\partial x} + v \frac{\partial u}{\partial y}, \frac{\partial v}{\partial t} + u \frac{\partial v}{\partial x} + v \frac{\partial v}{\partial y} \right).[/tex]
 
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What is acceleration of fluid particle?

The acceleration of fluid particle refers to the rate of change of velocity of a fluid particle over time. It is a measure of how quickly the speed or direction of the particle changes.

What causes acceleration in fluid particles?

Acceleration in fluid particles is primarily caused by forces acting on the particles, such as gravity, pressure, and viscosity. These forces can either increase or decrease the speed or direction of the particle, resulting in acceleration.

How is acceleration of fluid particle measured?

The acceleration of fluid particles can be measured using the equation a = dv/dt, where a is the acceleration, dv is the change in velocity, and dt is the change in time. This can be measured using instruments such as accelerometers or by analyzing fluid flow data.

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What are the applications of studying acceleration of fluid particles?

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