Acceleration problem and distance

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The problem involves two individuals, Fred and Wilma, who are racing to a bus stop 100 meters away, with Fred starting at rest and accelerating, while Wilma has a head start and accelerates after a delay. The subject area includes kinematics, specifically acceleration and distance calculations.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss Fred's acceleration distance and the total time taken to reach the bus stop, with some questioning the calculations and assumptions regarding the time spent accelerating and at constant speed.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants sharing their calculations and questioning specific steps. Some participants express uncertainty about their results and seek clarification on the time calculations for both Fred and Wilma, while others reference the book's answers as a point of comparison.

Contextual Notes

There is a noted discrepancy in the time calculations, with participants trying to reconcile their results with the answers provided in the textbook. The discussion highlights potential misunderstandings about the acceleration phase and the subsequent constant speed phase for both individuals.

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Homework Statement


Fred and Wilma leave their house at the same time heading for the bus stop 100m away. Fred starts at rest, accelerates at 0.500 m/s^2 up to a maximum speed of 5.00m/s, which he holds as he runs for the bus stop. Wilma gives Fred a 5.00 second head start and then accelerates for 6.00 seconds up to her maximum speed of 6.00m/s. Who gets to the bus stop first, and how long do they wait for the second person to arrive?


Homework Equations


v=d/t
d=vit + 1/2 at^2
vf=vi+at


The Attempt at a Solution


i have Fred accelerates for 10 seconds. and in 10 seconds he covered a distance of 25m. plus his acceleration distance of 6.25m = 31.25m total. 100m minus 31.25m is 68.75m remaining distance at constant speed so t=d/v so 68.75/5 = 13.75 s plus 11 seconds is 24.75. The answer in the book for Fred's time says 25seconds and the answer in the book for Wilma says 24.7seconds. Am i right here? It feels like I'm getting closer to the answer unless I've already got it?
 
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1irishman said:

Homework Statement


Fred and Wilma leave their house at the same time heading for the bus stop 100m away. Fred starts at rest, accelerates at 0.500 m/s^2 up to a maximum speed of 5.00m/s, which he holds as he runs for the bus stop. Wilma gives Fred a 5.00 second head start and then accelerates for 6.00 seconds up to her maximum speed of 6.00m/s. Who gets to the bus stop first, and how long do they wait for the second person to arrive?


Homework Equations


v=d/t
d=vit + 1/2 at^2
vf=vi+at


The Attempt at a Solution


i have Fred accelerates for 10 seconds. and in 10 seconds he covered a distance of 25m. plus his acceleration distance of 6.25m = 31.25m total.
Why are you adding 6.25 m? You have already determined his acceleration distance is 25m.

100m minus 31.25m is 68.75m remaining distance at constant speed so t=d/v so 68.75/5 = 13.75 s plus 11 seconds is 24.75. The answer in the book for Fred's time says 25seconds and the answer in the book for Wilma says 24.7seconds. Am i right here? It feels like I'm getting closer to the answer unless I've already got it?
The answer in the book is right.

AM
 
Fred's acceleration distance is 25metres. So i got 100m-25m=75m left for Fred plugged into t=d/v=75/5=15 seconds plus 11seconds equals 26seconds. Why am i one second off the correct answer of 25seconds? Please help? thanks.
 
1irishman said:
Fred's acceleration distance is 25metres. So i got 100m-25m=75m left for Fred plugged into t=d/v=75/5=15 seconds plus 11seconds equals 26seconds. Why am i one second off the correct answer of 25seconds? Please help? thanks.
How do you get 11 seconds? What is [itex]\Delta t[/itex] in terms of [itex]\Delta v[/itex] and a?

AM
 
I can't solve this...please give me more hints?
 
1irishman said:
I can't solve this...please give me more hints?
Explain how you get 11 seconds.

If [itex]a = \Delta v /\Delta t[/itex] and a = .5 m/s^2, vf = 5 m/s and vi = 0 you should be able to work out the time. It is not 11 seconds.

AM
 
okay...i have t=10s for Fred to accelerate, and 15s at constant speed for Fred total time is 25seconds. Is that right for Fred?
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For Wilma I have 13.7s at constant speed plus 11seconds to include acceleration time is 24.7seconds. Is that right for Wilma?
 
1irishman said:
okay...i have t=10s for Fred to accelerate, and 15s at constant speed for Fred total time is 25seconds. Is that right for Fred?
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For Wilma I have 13.7s at constant speed plus 11seconds to include acceleration time is 24.7seconds. Is that right for Wilma?
Your book says that is the right answer.

AM
 

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