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Adding Ice to Water

  1. Jun 14, 2009 #1
    1. The problem statement, all variables and given/known data

    An insulated beaker with negligible mass contains liquid water with a mass of 0.275kg and a temperature of 77.7.

    How much ice at a temperature of -17.4 must be dropped into the water so that the final temperature of the system will be 29.0?
    Take the specific heat of liquid water to be 4190 , the specific heat of ice to be 2100 , and the heat of fusion for water to be 334 x 10^3 .


    2. Relevant equations
    Q = mc[tex]\Delta[/tex]T
    Q_tot = q_1 + q_2 ..etc
    Fusion - Phase change

    3. The attempt at a solution

    I am almost certain I have done this correctly, but masteringphysics will not admit it! :/
    I will leave off some units as I have made sure they all match up.

    q1: Ice to 0C
    q2: Ice fusion mw= mass water
    q3: Ice to 29C mi = mass ice
    q4: H20 to 29C


    ((mw)(4190)(29C-77.7C) + (mi)(2100)(0C+17.4C)+(mi)(334 X 10^3)+(mi)(4190)(29C-0C))= 0

    I solve for mi and get 0.114kg ice. MP no likey. Anyone care to check this?

    Thanks in advance,
    Magicarp
     
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  3. Jun 14, 2009 #2

    LowlyPion

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    Welcome to PF.

    If it's any consolation I get a different answer from you.
    Perhaps you should recalculate a little more carefully?

    I initially dropped a term but it was inconsequential, and still different from your answer.

    Edit: but quite close to yours. Maybe carry more precision?
     
  4. Jun 14, 2009 #3
    Thanks for the speedy response! Are you sure there is nothing to fix in the setup? I could extend the answer to more sig figs, but this is one of those questions where MP conveniently doesn't tell you how many sig figs to include. It tells me that my answer is close and I may have rounded or used the incorrect number of sig figs. But usually when it says this, the answer is different by quite a lot.
     
  5. Jun 14, 2009 #4

    LowlyPion

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    I'd say your method is apparently OK.

    I got .11277 kg when I equated what heats up to what cools down. In quickly checking your terms it seems your signs are OK.
     
  6. Jun 14, 2009 #5
    Thanks LowlyPion, I simply had to extend the sig figs by 1 digit.

    Cheers,
    Magicarp
     
  7. Jun 14, 2009 #6

    mgb_phys

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    I would have to back you up.
    You are given the data to 3sig figs, more than 3sig figures in the answer is wrong. That's why I hate these online test things
     
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