Adding more than two coherent sound sources of different phases

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This discussion focuses on the methodology for adding more than two coherent sound sources with different phases, particularly in scenarios involving reflections from surfaces. Key insights include the use of the principle of superposition to combine sound waves from multiple sources, as well as the importance of calculating phase differences based on path lengths in wavelengths. The equation provided for calculating sound pressure levels, p^2=p1^2+p2^2+p3^2+2*p1*p2*cos(B1-B2-B3), is essential for determining the resultant sound pressure at the receiver. Additionally, the discussion emphasizes the need to consider each sound path separately until they converge at the receiver.

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Does anyone know how to add more than two coherent sources that have different phases?

An example might be a sound source and a receiver with sound reaching the receiver directly and by two reflections via different paths - maybe off a hard floor and hard ceiling.

There's a good document on adding two coherent sources here - http://35.9.69.219/home/modules/pdf_modules/m205.pdf, but I can't find much on adding more than two.

Any help would be great,

Tom
 
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My first suggestion would be to identify each path and determine its length in wavelengths.
This can be converted to phase differences and the waves (however many) add using the principle of superposition.
In optics a diffraction grating can be analysed in this way expanding from 2 sources to 3 sources to 4 sources and so on.
Not much specific help but I hope it triggers something for you.
The document you quoted is very good.
 
Consider the instantaneous amplitude of each signal at the receiver to be equal to its peak amplitude multiplied by the Sin of its angular frequency multiplied by the time of travel (with the speed of sound in that environment taken into account).



Add them all together.
 
Thanks for that. I'm just wondering about something that's related. If a source radiates omnidirectionally at a certain height above a acoustically reflective surface, and there's a barrier in between the source and receiver, then on the source side there would be two signal paths - both of which end up at the top of the barrier - at the same point. These two paths can be considered as two separate coherent sound sources, but at the top of the barrier would they join together to form one sound path? Or is it best to consider all the sound paths as separate right until they meet the receiver - so not confusing anything too much?
 
I'm still having no success with this really.

Imagine if there were three coherent sources radiating omnidirectionally at the same frequency. Two of the sources had an acoustic power output of 1 W and were 1 wavelength away from the receiver. Then the third source had an acoustic power output of 6 W but was half a wavelength away.

Would I just use this equation?: -
p^2=p1^2+p2^2+p3^2+2*p1*p2*cos(B1-B2-B3),

where p values are calculated from Lp = Lw - 10*log(4*pi*r^2) and B values are the phase values of each source at the receiver and are calculated using k*r.
 

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