Calculating Moment: Addition of Torque Components

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The discussion focuses on calculating the moment (torque) components using the formulas T_x = 18 × Fcos(30) and T_y = 5 × Fsin(30). The user correctly obtained the total torque by direct addition of these components, yielding values of 27.64 lb and 55.28 lb. However, confusion arose regarding the vector addition method for determining torque magnitude. The torque vector is defined as the cross product of the force vector and the lever arm vector, and both components of the force are perpendicular to the lever arm at point A, confirming the correctness of the direct addition method.

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In order to pull out the nail at B, as shown in the figure, the force F exerted on the handle of the hammer must produce a clockwise moment of 500 lb-in about point A. Determine the required magnitude of force F.
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##T=F\times l##
First of all, sorry for the units. This is a problem I found on the internet and am confused about the solution.

I calculated the two components of the moment (torque) to be

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##T_x = 18\times Fcos(30)## and ##T_y=5\times Fsin(30)##

The problem is, I got the proper answer (the two options were 27.64 lb and 55.28 lb) by direct addition of the two components but did not get it by vector addition (for magnitude).

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I am not sure how I got the correct answer using a seemingly incorrect method.
 
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The torque vector is the cross product of the force vector and the lever arm vector. So what direction is it in?
 
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Solution #1 is correct because both components of F (x and y) are perpendicular to the lever of each respect to the point A, where the moment said to be applied.
Solution #2 is incorrect because you are mixing torque with your effort to determine F from its x and y components.
 
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The torque vector is the cross product of the force vector and the lever arm vector. So what direction is it in?

Got it. Both of the them are pointing in the same direction, so it should be added normally. Thanks!
 

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