Advanced Calculus - Continuous Functions

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the proofs related to the continuity and properties of a function defined on the interval [0,1], specifically addressing parts (a) through (d) of a problem in advanced calculus. The focus includes aspects of continuity, Riemann sums, and the behavior of the function at rational and irrational points.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents a proof for part (a) demonstrating that the function is discontinuous at rational points by constructing a sequence of irrational points converging to a rational point.
  • Another participant outlines a proof for part (b) showing that the function is continuous at irrational points by analyzing the behavior of the function in relation to a partition of the interval.
  • Further claims are made regarding the boundedness and continuity of the function outside a null set in part (c).
  • In part (d), a participant argues that the lower Riemann sum is zero due to the presence of irrational points in each interval of a partition.
  • Another participant challenges the correctness of the proof provided for part (b), specifically questioning the treatment of rational points and their distances.
  • A later reply acknowledges errors in the original proof, particularly regarding the classification of rational and irrational points, and expresses intent to correct these mistakes.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express disagreement regarding the validity of certain proofs, particularly in parts (b) and (d). There is no consensus on the correctness of the arguments presented, and multiple competing views remain evident throughout the discussion.

Contextual Notes

Some proofs contain unresolved details and assumptions, particularly regarding the behavior of the function at specific points and the implications of rational versus irrational classifications. The discussion reflects a complex interplay of ideas that have not been fully settled.

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I'm really stumped on how to do these proofs…

I would really appreciate any help or insight!
 

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Hi bradyrsmith31,

For part (a), take any $x \in [0,1] \cap \Bbb Q$ and let $x_n := \frac{x}{2^{1/2^n}}$. Then $x_n \in [0,1]\setminus \Bbb Q$ such that $x_n \to x$. Since $f(x_n) = 0$ for all $n$ and $f(x) > 0$, $f(x_n)$ does not converge to $f(x)$. Therefore, $f$ is discontinuous at $x$.

For part (b), let $\varepsilon > 0$ and $x_0 \in [0,1] \setminus \Bbb Q$. Since $\lim_{n \to \infty} a_n = 0$, there exists a positive integer $N$ such that for all $n \ge N$, $a_n < \varepsilon$. Partition $[0,1]$ into $N$ subintervals $J_1,\ldots, J_N$ of length $\frac{1}{N}$. Let $k$ be the index such that $x_0 \in J_k$. Set $\delta$ equal to the distance from $x_0$ to the nearer endpoint of $J_k$. If $|x - x_0| < \delta$, then $x$ lies in the interior of $J_k$. If $x$ is rational, this implies $d(x) \ge N$. Consequently, $$|f(x) - f(x_0)| = |f(x) - 0| = f(x) = a_{d(x)} < \varepsilon.$$ If $x$ is irrational, then $|f(x) - f(x_0)| = |0 - 0| = 0 < \varepsilon$. Since $\varepsilon$ and $x_0$ are arbitrary, $f$ is continuous at every point of $[0,1]\setminus \Bbb Q$.

For part (c), note that $f$ is bounded and continuous outside a null set.

For part (d), consider any partition $P : 0 = x_0 < x_1 < \cdots < x_n = 1$ of $[0,1]$. The lower Riemann sum $L(f,P)$ is zero because each interval $[x_{i-1}, x_i]$ contains an irrational point $q_i$, and $f(q_i) = 0 \le \inf_{t \in [x_{i-1},x_i]} f(t)$. Consequently, the lower Riemann integral of $f$ is zero.

The upper Riemann integral of $f$ is also zero. For let $\varepsilon > 0$. Let $N$ be a positive integer such that $a_n < \frac{\varepsilon}{2}$ for all $n \ge N$. Partition $[0,1]$ into the intervals $I_k :=[\frac{k-1}{N}, \frac{k}{N}]$, for $k = 1, 2,\ldots, N$. For each $k$, let $M_k := \sup_{t \in I_k} f(t)$. There exist $r_1,\ldots, r_n$ such that $t_k \in I_k$ such that $M_k < f(r_k) + \frac{\varepsilon}{2}$ for all $k$. Given $k$, if $r_k$ is rational, $f(r_k) = 0$; if $r_k$ is irrational, $d(r_k) \ge N$ and thus $f(r_k) = a_{d(r_k)} < \frac{\varepsilon}{2}$. Thus $M_k < \frac{\varepsilon}{2} + \frac{\varepsilon}{2} = \varepsilon$ for each $k$. The upper Riemann sum $U(f,P) = \frac{1}{n} \sum_{k = 1}^n M_k $ is therefore less than $\varepsilon$. Since $\varepsilon$ is arbitrary, this shows that the upper Riemann sum of $f$ is zero.
 
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I don't believe Euge's proof is correct. He seems to be saying that if q is a rational between k/N and k/(N+1), d(q) is greater than or equal to N. Of course, this is false: 500/1001<1/2<501/1001. In particular, I don't believe his proof of b) in case $x_0$ is "very close" to 1/2.

Here is my proof of the problem. The idea of the proof of c) and d) is fairly simple, but the details are a little messy.

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Hi johng,

You're right about my proof of (b) (and part of (d)). Even in the proof of (d), I mixed up the words "rational" and "irrational" near the end. I meant to fix these issues later tonight, but you beat me to it! In any case, thanks for the critique.
 

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