Advanced Quantum Mechanics Books Suggestions

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The discussion revolves around recommendations for advanced quantum mechanics textbooks suitable for someone with a foundational understanding of quantum mechanics. Participants express preferences for books that emphasize mathematical and theoretical approaches rather than problem-solving or computational methods.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses a desire for books that develop mathematics and theory more formally, citing a preference for works by Dirac and von Neumann.
  • Another participant suggests that derivation and proof-type problems are more desirable than computational problems, indicating a focus on theoretical understanding.
  • A suggestion is made for "Quantum Mechanics for Mathematicians," although one participant notes it may be too advanced for their current mathematical background.
  • One participant advocates for Ballentine's book, highlighting its introduction to Rigged Hilbert Spaces and its derivation of dynamics from invariance, which they believe enhances understanding of the logical structure of quantum mechanics.
  • Another participant mentions Arno Bohm's book as a lesser-known option that combines precise mathematics with substantial physics content.
  • A comparison is made between Sakurai's and Landau's texts, with one participant noting the modernity of Sakurai's work and the elegance of Landau's, despite some material being outdated.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying opinions on the suitability of different texts, with no clear consensus on a single recommended book. Some participants agree on the value of Ballentine's approach, while others prefer different texts based on their own experiences and preferences.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge differing levels of mathematical background, which influences their textbook recommendations. There is also a recognition that some books may be more suitable for those with a stronger mathematical foundation.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for graduate students or individuals seeking advanced understanding in quantum mechanics, particularly those interested in the mathematical foundations and theoretical aspects of the subject.

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I have a good enough grasp of basics of QM at the level of Griffiths and Binney. Anyways, I want to start a more advanced book. I have my heart set at starting one of the following

Dirac's "Principles of QM"
John von Neumann's "Mathematical Foundations of QM"
L. Ballentine's "QM: A Modern Development"
Pascual and Galindo's "QM: Vol 1"
Sakurai's "Modern QM"
Landau's "Non-relativistic QM"

Suggestions? I always prefer more mathematical and theoretical approach than calculational approach; no interest in problem solving whatsoever, so please suggest accordingly.
 
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saim_ said:
no interest in problem solving whatsoever, so please suggest accordingly.
... so what do you want then? A book you can just read like a novel?

In any event, I love Sakurai (though I have never used his chapter on scattering, I hear its not very good).
 
Jorriss said:
... so what do you want then? A book you can just read like a novel?
I didn't mean it so strongly. What I meant is I want a book more along the lines of Dirac and Neumann which develop mathematics and theory more formally and less long the lines of Griffiths, the stated aim of which is teaching how to 'do' QM and cares less about math and theory.
 
saim_ said:
I didn't mean it so strongly. What I meant is I want a book more along the lines of Dirac and Neumann which develop mathematics and theory more formally and less long the lines of Griffiths, the stated aim of which is teaching how to 'do' QM and cares less about math and theory.
Ahhh, but then, even in pure math classes you learn by doing tons and tons of problems. Do you just mean you meant derivation and 'proof' type problems and not 'A particle is confined to this and this find this and this..?'

Or do you actually just not want to do any problems?

Because, iirc, Sakurai has mostly the former whos problems develop the structure of theory and are, for the most part, insightful.
 
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Jorriss said:
Do you just mean you meant derivative and 'proof' type problems and not 'A particle is confined to this and this find this and this..?'
Exactly what I meant. I can't do calulational stuff unless I have to, like for a course. Derivations and proofs I can do or read all day long :D
 
Quantum Mechanics for Mathematicians might be interesting.
 
@deluks917: That is a graduate text and that too for math grads. I just went through its table of contents and as much as I love math, I don't know all that much of it :D So I want something that develops the math a little more gently.
 
I am more of a mathematical physics type guy than a straight physics person and like to see the math.

I have quite a few QM books - Von Neumann, Dirac, Griffiths, etc etc. By far and by a long way Ballentine is the best. For example you get an introduction to Rigged Hilbert Spaces which IMHO is the correct setting for QM rather than Hilbert Spaces. Also the dynamics such as Schroedinger's equation is derived from invariance and not a separate postulate which adds greatly to understanding the actual logical structure of the theory. Basically you understand QM is really a consequence of just 2 postulates and they contain the essential mystery. I believe it can really be reduced to one - the superposition principle - but that is another story.

Thanks
Bill
 
@bhobba: That is just great! That's exactly the kind of book I wanted. Thank you for your help.
 
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I've read both Sakurai's "Modern QM" and Landau's "Non-relativistic QM". Sakurai's is certainly more modern and the first few chapters are really nice but Landau and Lifgarbagez' book has a certain elegance to it even though a lot of the material in it is a little outdated (it's still good though, it explains the stuff at Griffiths' level but a lot clearer and precice than Griffiths' book which is horrid imo)
 

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