Building a Rocket: Airbag Landing Basics

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the use of airbags for landing a rocket, specifically focusing on protecting the fuel tanks from damage during landing. Participants explore various concepts, materials, and methods related to rocket landing systems, including alternative options to airbags.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks guidance on using airbags to protect rocket tanks during landing, indicating a beginner's perspective.
  • Another participant suggests that the rocket's design should consider the deployment of airbags to distribute forces and mentions the need for shock-absorbing systems for rocket motors and flexible fuel transfer lines.
  • A different participant expresses skepticism about airbags, noting their limitations such as unpredictability in landing locations and single-use deflation.
  • Alternative landing protection methods are proposed, including parachutes and R/C steerable parawings, as well as cushioning methods like using foam or packing materials around the tanks.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants present differing views on the effectiveness of airbags, with some advocating for their use while others question their practicality and suggest alternatives. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best approach to protect the rocket during landing.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not fully defined the rocket's design parameters or landing conditions, which may affect the feasibility of the proposed solutions. There is also a lack of consensus on the optimal landing protection strategy.

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Hi, I'm building a rocket, and my team is planning to use airbags to protect the tanks from crushing during landing. I'm a newbie at this, and I want to know where I should start:)
Thanks
 
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Please describe your rocket concept. Presumably the rocket is landing so as to take off again, which would imply there is a fuel supply or one will have to produce a fuel supply near the landing point.

The air bags would in theory deploy themself to distribute any forces on the tanks to the structural frame of the rocket. Then that also means the rocket motors, which would have to be attached to fuel/oxidizer transfer lines, would also have to mounted with a shock absorbing system with similar displacement as the tanks, or the fuel/oxidizer transfer lines have to be flexible to accommodate the differences in displacement between rocket motors and tanks.

One has to look at the structural frame and tank geometry to determine the optimal placement of the air bags.

Also are the airbags external or internal. Airbags were used for the Spirit and Opportunity landings on Mars. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mars_Exploration_Rover_Mission#Airbags
The actual airbags were tested at Glenn Research Center, NASA.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airbag
 
I know that airbags isn't the best option, because you never know where the rocket will land and they can only deflate once. Are there any options for protecting the rocket during landing other than airbags?
 
You might be better off sticking with a good parachute, or maybe even an R/C steerable parawing. Maybe cushion-mounting the tanks would be of benefit as well (ie: pack styrene peanuts or foam rubber around them and use flexible lines).
 

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