All possible inequivalent Lie algebras

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The discussion revolves around identifying all inequivalent (non-isomorphic) 2D Lie algebras through the analysis of their commutators. Participants are examining the implications of different cases for the coefficients in the commutator equation, specifically focusing on the conditions under which these algebras can be classified.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

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  • Participants consider various cases for the coefficients in the commutator, questioning the implications of assuming certain values (e.g., whether to ignore the Abelian case). They explore transformations and isomorphisms between different representations of the Lie algebras, while also discussing the significance of basis transformations.

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The discussion is active, with participants raising questions about the completeness of their analysis and the validity of their assumptions. Some guidance has been provided regarding the classification of the algebras, but there is no explicit consensus on the final interpretations or outcomes.

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Participants are navigating the complexities of Lie algebra classification, with specific attention to the cases where coefficients are zero or non-zero. The discussion reflects a mix of understanding and uncertainty regarding the implications of their findings.

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Homework Statement


How can you find all inequivalent (non-isomorphic) 2D Lie algebras just by an analysis of the commutator?

Homework Equations


$$[X,Y] = \alpha X + \beta Y$$

The Attempt at a Solution


I considered three cases: ##\alpha = \beta \neq 0, \alpha = 0## or ##\beta = 0, \alpha = \beta = 0##. I found that there can only be one 2D Lie algebra with commutator ##[X,Y] = X##. I'm not sure how to arrive at this answer. Any help is appreciated T_T. Thanks!
 
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Azure Ace said:

Homework Statement


How can you find all inequivalent (non-isomorphic) 2D Lie algebras just by an analysis of the commutator?

Homework Equations


$$[X,Y] = \alpha X + \beta Y$$

The Attempt at a Solution


I considered three cases: ##\alpha = \beta \neq 0, \alpha = 0## or ##\beta = 0, \alpha = \beta = 0##. I found that there can only be one 2D Lie algebra with commutator ##[X,Y] = X##. I'm not sure how to arrive at this answer. Any help is appreciated T_T. Thanks!
Where did the Abelian case get lost?
Now, say w.l.o.g. that ##\alpha \neq 0##. Then we have ##[X,\frac{1}{\alpha}Y]=X+\frac{\beta}{\alpha}Y## or ##[X,Y]=X+\gamma Y##. Can you find an isomorphism to ##[U,V]=V\,?## I switched the names of the basis vectors here, to avoid confusion between the two copies of the Lie algebra.
 
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fresh_42 said:
Where did the Abelian case get lost?
Now, say w.l.o.g. that ##\alpha \neq 0##. Then we have ##[X,\frac{1}{\alpha}Y]=X+\frac{\beta}{\alpha}Y## or ##[X,Y]=X+\gamma Y##. Can you find an isomorphism to ##[U,V]=V\,?## I switched the names of the basis vectors here, to avoid confusion between the two copies of the Lie algebra.
Sorry, I still fail to see how the the Abelian case was gone and I'm a little bit new when it comes to this so I'm a little bit slow. Could you explain how you arrived at that equation? Is it something like ##\frac{1}{\alpha}[X,Y] = X + \frac{\beta}{\alpha}Y##?
 
We have ##[X,Y]=\alpha X + \beta Y## and assumed ##\alpha \neq 0##. Thus we can divide the equation by ##\alpha## and get ##\frac{1}{\alpha }[X,Y]= [X,\frac{1}{\alpha }Y]=1\cdot X + \frac{\beta}{\alpha }Y##. With ##Y':=\frac{1}{\alpha}Y## this means ##[X,Y']=X+\beta Y'##. I didn't do this calculation, so I didn't bother the coefficient and wrote ##\gamma ## instead of ##\beta ## and ##Y## again instead of ##Y'##.

Now which multiplication do you get for ##U=X## and ##V=X+\beta Y'## and how can we turn the factor ##\beta ## into a factor ##1##?
 
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We have ##[X,Y]=\alpha X + \beta Y## and assumed ##\alpha \neq 0##. Thus we can divide the equation by ##\alpha## and get ##\frac{1}{\alpha }[X,Y]= [X,\frac{1}{\alpha }Y]=1\cdot X + \frac{\beta}{\alpha }Y##. With ##Y':=\frac{1}{\alpha}Y## this means ##[X,Y']=X+\beta Y'##. I didn't do this calculation, so I didn't bother the coefficient and wrote ##\gamma ## instead of ##\beta ## and ##Y## again instead of ##Y'##.

Now which multiplication do you get for ##U=X## and ##V=X+\beta Y'## and how can we turn the factor ##\beta ## into a factor ##1##?
One last set of questions (I think). Can we really just ignore ##\alpha = \beta = 0##? To me, it seems that ##\alpha \neq 0## is more of an initial assumption. Also, can you clarify what do you mean by "which multiplication"? Do you mean what constant should I multiply to make the factor ##\beta## to 1? Or is this something like if ##V=X+\beta Y'##
$$[V - \beta Y', Y'] = [V,Y] - \beta[Y', Y'] = V$$ $$[V,Y'] = V$$

Thank you very much for your help and patience ^_^
 
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One last set of questions (I think). Can we really just ignore ##\alpha = \beta = 0##?
No, we can't. This leads to the Abelian solution. There are two two dimensional Lie algebras.
To me, it seems that ##\alpha \neq 0## is more of an initial assumption.
There are all four cases you have listed. ##\alpha = \beta = 0## (Abelian Lie algebra) and all other three cases ##\alpha \neq 0 = \beta\; , \;\alpha =0 \neq \beta\; , \;\alpha \neq 0 \neq \beta## should lead to isomorphic copies of ##\mathfrak{g}=\langle X,Y\,\vert \,[X,Y]=Y\rangle##, the two dimensional non-Abelian Lie algebra.
Also, can you clarify what do you mean by "which multiplication"? Do you mean what constant should I multiply to make the factor ##\beta## to 1? Or is this something like if ##V=X+\beta Y'##
$$[V - \beta Y', Y'] = [V,Y] - \beta[Y', Y'] = V$$ $$[V,Y'] = V$$
##\{X,Y\}## is a basis. Now basis transformations don't change the Lie algebra, only the way we write it down. We arrived at ##[X,Y']=X+\beta Y'## by setting ##Y'= \frac{1}{\alpha}Y##, which is simply another basis. Now let ##Y''=V=X+\beta Y'##. Then ##[X,Y'']=\ldots =\beta Y''##. Here we have again two possibilities. The Abelian solution for ##\beta =0## and with which substitution ##X'=\ldots## do we get ##[X',Y'']=Y''\,?## By multiplication I meant these Lie multiplications.

Until now we have made only basis transformations within a given Lie algebra. What is left, is the case ##[X,Y]=\alpha X \neq 0## with ##\beta = 0##. Which transformations lead from there to ##[U,V]=V## or if you like it better ##[X',Y']=Y'\,?## The last multiplication is the one we want to arrive at.
 
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No, we can't. This leads to the Abelian solution. There are two two dimensional Lie algebras.

There are all four cases you have listed. ##\alpha = \beta = 0## (Abelian Lie algebra) and all other three cases ##\alpha \neq 0 = \beta\; , \;\alpha =0 \neq \beta\; , \;\alpha \neq 0 \neq \beta## should lead to isomorphic copies of ##\mathfrak{g}=\langle X,Y\,\vert \,[X,Y]=Y\rangle##, the two dimensional non-Abelian Lie algebra.

##\{X,Y\}## is a basis. Now basis transformations don't change the Lie algebra, only the way we write it down. We arrived at ##[X,Y']=X+\beta Y'## by setting ##Y'= \frac{1}{\alpha}Y##, which is simply another basis. Now let ##Y''=V=X+\beta Y'##. Then ##[X,Y'']=\ldots =\beta Y''##. Here we have again two possibilities. The Abelian solution for ##\beta =0## and with which substitution ##X'=\ldots## do we get ##[X',Y'']=Y''\,?## By multiplication I meant these Lie multiplications.

Until now we have made only basis transformations within a given Lie algebra. What is left, is the case ##[X,Y]=\alpha X \neq 0## with ##\beta = 0##. Which transformations lead from there to ##[U,V]=V## or if you like it better ##[X',Y']=Y'\,?## The last multiplication is the one we want to arrive at.

OOOHHH! Now I see! Thank you very much! I understand it clearly now. Actually, at first I thought there could only be one possible 2D Lie algebra (from what I saw from Wikipedia). Either it was wrong and misleading or I misunderstood, but I am more convinced that there should be an Abelian case. Your answer was more than enough. Thank you very much! ^_^
 

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