Allowed/Forbidden Transition Dipole Moments

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The discussion centers on the allowed and forbidden transition dipole moments between different molecular electronic states in diatomic molecules, specifically addressing both homonuclear and heteronuclear cases. Participants explore the underlying principles, selection rules, and the impact of symmetry on these transitions.

Discussion Character

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  • Debate/contested
  • Exploratory

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that the basic rule for transition dipole moments involves the expression ||2 > 0, where transitions depend on the symmetry properties of rovibronic wavefunctions.
  • It is noted that allowed transitions occur between states of the same spin family, such as singlet to singlet or triplet to triplet, but not singlet to triplet.
  • One participant highlights that the rules for allowed and forbidden transitions assume that molecules adhere to established nomenclature, which may not reflect the reality of molecular states due to perturbations.
  • Another participant clarifies that there are no allowed or forbidden dipole moments, but rather allowed or forbidden dipole transitions, with a transition being forbidden if the transition dipole moment vanishes.
  • A participant raises a specific question regarding heteronuclear diatomic molecules, inquiring about the selection rules and the possibility of transitions between doublet Sigma+ and doublet Delta electronic states, noting their own calculations suggest such transitions exist.
  • It is mentioned that heteronuclear diatomic molecules belong to the symmetry group ##C_{\infty v##, and that dipole moment operators can be analyzed using character tables for this group to determine the nature of transitions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the specifics of allowed and forbidden transitions, particularly in the context of heteronuclear diatomic molecules. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the selection rules for these molecules and the implications of perturbations on transition dipole moments.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the dependence on symmetry properties and the potential for perturbations to affect the actual states of molecules, which may not conform strictly to the established selection rules.

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Hello Everyone,

Kindly, may anyone please tell me what are the allowed and forbidden transition dipole moments between different molecular electronic states in diatomic molecules?

Thank you so much in advance...
 
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sams said:
Hello Everyone,

Kindly, may anyone please tell me what are the allowed and forbidden transition dipole moments between different molecular electronic states in diatomic molecules?

Thank you so much in advance...

The basic rule is: |<f|dipole operator|i>|2 < > 0

Where <f| is the final state, |i> is the initial state, and the dipole operator is sandwiched in between.

Starting from this rule, you can use symmetry properties of the different kinds of rovibronic wavefunctions to come up with selection rules. Things like you can only change between certain kinds of electronic states. I.e. you can go from a Sigma state to another Sigma state (the first electronic transition in H2 is like this), but you can't change from a Sigma state to a Delta state. For homonuclear diatomic molecules, you can only have transitions between gerade and ungerade states. Again, the first electronic transition in H2 shows this, as well.

"Allowed" transitions also occur between states of the same spin family. Singlet --> singlet, and triplet --> triplet, but not singlet --> triplet.

The problem with all of these rules is that they assume molecules know about all of our nomenclature for the different states, and obey themselves. The reality is that there are all sorts of perturbations, and the actual states in many molecules are admixtures of different states for which we have a name. I.e. you can see singlet --> triplet transitions in things were the actual states are mixtures of singlet-like and triplet-like basis states. The very strong transition in Hg at 253.7 nm is an example of one of these (1^S --> 3^P).

If you are interested in diatomics, Herzberg's Diatomics is the standard text. A more readable text is the one by Jeff Steinfeld ("Molecules and Radiation").
 
Note also that there are no allowed or forbidden dipole moments but allowed or forbidden dipole transitions. A dipole transition is forbidden iff the transition dipole moment vanishes.
 
Actually, I am interested in heteronuclear diatomic molecules. What about the selection rules of heteronuclear diatomic molecules? Is there allowed transitions between doublet Sigma+ and doublet Delta electronic states? In my recent calculations I have obtained such transitions, but no transitions is obtained between doublet Sigma+ and doublet Sigma-!
 
Heteronuclear diatomic molecules belong to the symmetry group ##C_{\infty v}##. The dipole moment operators transform like x,y and z and you can look up the corresponding representations and characters in a character table for this group.
Given the irreps of the inital and final state, you can check whether the matrix elements transform like the totally symmetric representation.
 
Thank you so much DrDu and Quantum Defect :smile: for your help and for your kind support...
 

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