Alternating series where the limit goes to zero BUT it diverges?

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around finding an example of an alternating series that is decreasing, approaches zero, and diverges. Participants are exploring the properties of alternating series and their convergence criteria, particularly in the context of a homework assignment related to series tests.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the characteristics of alternating series and the conditions under which they converge or diverge. There is an attempt to identify a suitable example, with references to p-series and the alternating harmonic series. Some participants question the existence of such a series based on the alternating series test.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with various interpretations being explored. Some participants express doubt about the existence of a series that meets the criteria, while others suggest alternative approaches or examples that may not fit the traditional definitions. There is no explicit consensus on the matter yet.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working under the constraints of a homework assignment, which requires them to find a specific type of series. There is mention of the need for originality in examples, as well as the potential for miscommunication regarding the assignment's requirements.

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Homework Statement



My prof gave us an extra credit opportunity for a few extra points on the final exam(tomorrow).

He told us to go find an example of an alternating series that is decreasing, its limit->0, and it diverges. So far I haven't seen any examples, plus I have sat around some tonight instead of studying for the final trying to figure this one out.






Homework Equations



Alternating series test. But I am bad at Latex so Ill spare everyone.

The Attempt at a Solution



I'm not sure if I am right on this one, but how about an alternating p-series with p=1? If you take the limit of 1/n as n->infinity the series goes to zero. Its also decreasing AND according to the p-series test, if p<=1 then it diverges. Is this a good answer or..?

We have actually used this on before in class...so he may be looking for a more original alternating series.

By the way, I have to actually make up my own problem and solve it, but that will be the easy part.
 
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But the p-series applies to functions of the sort...

[tex]\sum_{n=1}^\infty \frac{1}{n^p}[/tex]

Which is non-alternating. Also, the alternating harmonic series you describe...

[tex]\sum_{n=1}^\infty \frac{\left(-1\right)^{n-1}}{n}[/tex]

Does converge, as do all alternating series that are absolutely decreasing.
 
Char. Limit said:
But the p-series applies to functions of the sort...

[tex]\sum_{n=1}^\infty \frac{1}{n^p}[/tex]

Which is non-alternating. Also, the alternating harmonic series you describe...

[tex]\sum_{n=1}^\infty \frac{\left(-1\right)^{n-1}}{n}[/tex]

Does converge, as do all alternating series that are absolutely decreasing.

so...no such series exist? I must have misheard my professor/
 
nlsherrill said:
so...no such series exist? I must have misheard my professor/

Or he could be cruel. I'm pretty sure no such series exists however. If one did, the alternating series test would be invalid.
 
A Leibniz Series is:

1. alternating i.e. (-1)^n.
2. lim |a| -> 0
3. decreasing.

any series that has this 3 conditions, converges conditionally :)
 
Char. Limit said:
Or he could be cruel.
A man after my own heart!

I'm pretty sure no such series exists however. If one did, the alternating series test would be invalid.
 
I think the trick is to find one that's decreasing to 0, but not monotonically decreasing:

1 - 0 + 1/2 - 0 + 1/3 - 0 + ···

1/1 - 1/12 + 1/2 - 1/22 + 1/3 - 1/32 + ···
 
Maybe you could use the bernoulli numbers. Every other n, B_n is zero, so if you co-ordinated that with the (-1)^n just right...
 

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