Alternative form of Reynold's number

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The discussion revolves around the relationship between different forms of the Reynolds number and its representation in terms of other variables. Participants are exploring how to express π1, which is the inverse of the Reynolds number, as a function of π2 and π3, and the implications of this transformation.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants are attempting to clarify the relationship between π1 and the Reynolds number, questioning whether it is appropriate to express the Reynolds number in terms of other variables such as force, density, diameter, and velocity. There is also discussion about the meaning of the notation used, specifically regarding the function represented by Φ''.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants raising questions about the correct formulation of the Reynolds number and its inverse. Some have suggested that the notation might indicate a function, while others are exploring the implications of expressing π1 in different forms. There is no explicit consensus yet, but various interpretations are being examined.

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Participants are navigating the complexities of dimensional analysis and the significance of the Reynolds number in fluid dynamics, particularly in aeronautics. The discussion includes considerations of how viscous and inertial forces relate to the Reynolds number.

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in the third picture , we know that π2 can be written as function of π1 , where π2 is inverse of reynold number , how if i want to change it to π1 = function of π2 , can i write it as (Reynold number ) = F / ρ (D^2)(v^2) ?

p/s : π1 is actually inverse of reynold number

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IMO , for π1 = function of π2 , it is also (Reynold number ) = f (F / ρ (D^2)(v^2) ) ... we should write it as reynold number instead of inverse of reynold number , am i right ?
 

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What does upper case phi double prime stand for?

Φ'' (Re) = FD/ρD2V2
 
David Lewis said:
What does upper case phi double prime stand for?

Φ'' (Re) = FD/ρD2V2
I think the author means stand for function...
 
David Lewis said:
What does upper case phi double prime stand for?

Φ'' (Re) = FD/ρD2V2
do u have any idea now ?
 
anyone know the answer?
 
OK. If Φ represents a function then double prime would normally indicate the second derivative of that function.
 
David Lewis said:
OK. If Φ represents a function then double prime would normally indicate the second derivative of that function.
can i write it as (Reynold number ) = F / ρ (D^2)(v^2) ?

or , it should be 1/ reynold number = F / ρ (D^2)(v^2) ?
which one is correct ?
 
1/Re = F/ρD2V2

where F = viscous forces
 
David Lewis said:
1/Re = F/ρD2V2

where F = viscous forces
is it wrong to write it as (Reynold number ) = F / ρ (D^2)(v^2) ?
is there a need to change 1/ Re to Re for π1 in this case
P/s : π1 = function of ( π2 , π3 )
 
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The Reynolds number is dimensionless, so the numerator and denominator will have the same fundamental dimensions (M, L, T).

In aeronautics, the denominator (viscous forces) is smaller than the numerator (inertial forces) -- possibly 5 or 6 orders of magnitude smaller -- which makes Re a large number.
 
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David Lewis said:
The Reynolds number is dimensionless, so the numerator and denominator will have the same fundamental dimensions (M, L, T).

In aeronautics, the denominator (viscous forces) is smaller than the numerator (inertial forces) -- possibly 5 or 6 orders of magnitude smaller -- which makes Re a large number.
So, no matter pi 1 is Reynold number = ( pi 2 , pi3) or pi 1 is 1/ reynold number d= ( pi2, pi3) are correct??
 
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2 = FD/ρD2V2

What do ∏1 and ∏3 equal?
 

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