Alternative method to the matrix problem?

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The problem involves finding all real matrices of a specific form that satisfy a quadratic matrix equation. The subject area is linear algebra, focusing on matrix equations and properties such as minimal polynomials and eigenvalues.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss various methods to solve the matrix equation, including expanding the equation and equating entries. Some suggest using properties of minimal polynomials and eigenvalues, while others express confusion regarding the implications of the identity matrix in the context.

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The discussion is active, with participants exploring different approaches and questioning the implications of certain mathematical concepts. Some guidance on minimal polynomials and eigenvalues has been provided, but there is no explicit consensus on a preferred method.

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One participant notes that their math course does not cover eigenvalues, which may limit their ability to engage with some of the suggested methods. There is also mention of the potential complexity involved in the problem, indicating a desire for a more efficient approach.

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Homework Statement


Find all real matrices,X, of the form

[x 0]
[y z]

such that X2+3X+2I=0

(I is the identity matrix)


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The only method I know is to work out X2 and then 3X, add to 2I, then equate the corresponding entries with the zero matrix. Have 3 equations with three unknowns and solve. But is there any other method in which I can use to shorten the amount of writing I will have to do?
 
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If X^2+3X+2I=0, then the minimal polynomial of X divides t^2+3t+2=(t+1)(t+2), and take it from here.
 
morphism said:
If X^2+3X+2I=0, then the minimal polynomial of X divides t^2+3t+2=(t+1)(t+2), and take it from here.

I was thinking to do something like that, but the identity matrix in it confused me.
Now I should re-write the equation as

X^2++X+2I^2=(X+I)(X+2I)=0 and go from here right?
 
Well, it depends on what you mean by "go from here"! If you're going to say something like "Then X=-I or X=-2I", then you'll be off the mark. Do you know what a minimal polynomial is?
 
morphism said:
Well, it depends on what you mean by "go from here"! If you're going to say something like "Then X=-I or X=-2I", then you'll be off the mark. Do you know what a minimal polynomial is?

Yes, that is what I thought to do... No idea what a minimal polynomial is.
 
OK, do you know what eigenvalues are, then?

By the way, for matrices, AB=0 doesn't imply that A=0 or B=0. Try to come up with an example of this - and make sure you understand why this happens. In fact, you can have a nonzero matrix A such that A^2=0.
 
morphism said:
OK, do you know what eigenvalues are, then?

By the way, for matrices, AB=0 doesn't imply that A=0 or B=0. Try to come up with an example of this - and make sure you understand why this happens. In fact, you can have a nonzero matrix A such that A^2=0.

Yes,I know what eigenvalues are, and the characteristic polynomial. I am aware the AB=0 doesn't always mean that A=0 or b=0...I always forget this in matrices.
 
Then I guess a shortcut would be to notice that the eigenvalues of a triangular matrix will lie on its diagonal. And because X^2+3X+2I=0, the eigenvalues of X will satisfy the equation t^2+3t+2=0. So this'll give us why x and z will be. To find y you'll just have to do it the long way.

Well come to think of it, this isn't really a shortcut at all.
 
I guess I will have to stick with my initial method.
My math course, doesn't include the topic of e.vectors/values but since I did Further math I just happen to know it.
 

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