Aluminum wire stretched four times longer, resistance?

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The problem involves determining the resistance of an aluminum wire that is stretched to four times its original length while maintaining constant volume. The discussion centers around the relationship between length, cross-sectional area, and resistance in the context of electrical properties of materials.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the implications of increasing the length of the wire on its resistance and how the cross-sectional area must change to maintain constant volume. There are differing opinions on whether the resistance should be multiplied by four or sixteen, leading to questions about the relationship between length and area.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, exploring different interpretations of how resistance is affected by changes in length and area. Some have provided guidance on the necessary calculations, while others are questioning assumptions about the relationship between the dimensions of the wire.

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There is an ongoing debate about the effects of changing dimensions on resistance, particularly regarding the assumptions made about the cross-sectional area when the length is increased. The original poster and others are trying to reconcile their understanding with the physical principles involved.

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Homework Statement



A piece of aluminum wire has a resistance of 20C, 15.5 \Omega. If this wire is melted down and used to produce a second wire having a length four times the original length, what will the resistance of the new wire be at 20C? (Hint: The volume remains the same)


Homework Equations



R = \rho\stackrel{l}{a}

or

R2 = R1(1 + \alpha1[t2 - t1])


The Attempt at a Solution



R2 = R1(1 + 0)

R2 = R1 * 4

R2 = 62.0

I have plugged in the information into equation number two. As the delta t = 0, I didn't use the temperature coefficient. My answer was to multiply the initial resistance by 4, which gave me 62.0 \Omega.

Some guys in my class are saying that you have to multiply by 16, and the correct answer is 248 \Omega.

I don't see why they would multiply by 16, sure its four times longer, but does that mean the diameter of the wire went down? The volume of the wire remained constant, so I assume yes, it did get longer increasing the resistance by four, but the volume remained the same so that is all that is needed.

Can anyone see if I have missed something?
 
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The volume of the wire is A*L, where A is the cross-sectional area and L is the length. So if volume is constant and you multiply the length by four, what happens to the cross-sectional area and how do A and L relate to total resistance.
 
Increasing the length increases the resistance of the wire by a factor of four. If the cross sectional area increases by a factor of four then the resistance should decrease by a factor of 16... this would be r2 = 1/4R1?
 
Noooo. If L->4*L then A->A/4 so the product (which is volume) stays constant. The area DECREASES.
 
So the wire is now four times longer, and is now thinner then it was orginally. The cross sectional area is smaller therefore the resistance is higher then it was. So i must use R = p(L/A)? will I have to solve for the diameter of the wire?
 
Yes, that's exactly what you need. L is four times bigger, A is four times smaller. You don't need the diameter. What happens to R?
 
Its multiplied by 16, because the length has increased by four and the area has decreased by four, initial resistance * the decreased area of four * the increased length of four?
 
Yes. Your friends were right. For practice, what happens to the diameter? If you say it decreases by a factor 2, you would be right.
 
Dick, thank you for your help and letting me work through the problem. I have a better understanding now.
 
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No problem. Always fun if the victim of my advice finally 'gets it'.
 

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