Current and resistance of wire heating up water

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves calculating the average power required to heat water using an immersion heater made of Nichrome resistance wire. The scenario includes specific parameters such as the mass of water, temperature change, voltage, and time, along with various calculations related to resistance and dimensions of the wire.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss how to calculate the average power required and question how to find current without knowing charge. There is also an exploration of the implications of the wire being at a constant temperature and its effect on the heating process.

Discussion Status

Some participants have raised concerns about the assumptions made in the problem, particularly regarding the wire's temperature and its thermal mass. There is a recognition of the need to clarify these assumptions, and some guidance has been offered regarding the relationship between power, voltage, and current.

Contextual Notes

Participants note potential issues with the problem's design, suggesting that the assumption of the wire being at a constant temperature may not align with practical heating scenarios.

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Homework Statement


An office worker uses an immersion heater to warm 250 g of water in a light, covered, insulated cup from 20 degrees C to 100 degrees C in 4 minutes. The heater is Nichrome resistance wire connected to 120V power supply. Assume wire is at 100 degree C during 4 minute time interval.

a) calculate average power required to warm the water to 100 degree C in 4 min
b) calculate the required resistance in the heating element at 100 degree C
c) calculate the resistance of the heating element at 20 degree C
d) derive a relationship between the diameter of the wire, resistivity at 20 degree C, rou (po), the resistance at 20 degree C, Ro, and the length L
e) If L = 3 m, what is the diameter of the wire?

What we are given:
mass of water = 250 g
density of water = 1000 kg / m^3
change in T = 80
V = 120V
t = 4 minutes
p of Nichrome = 150 *10^-8
coeff of resistivity of Nichrome = 0.4 * 10^-3

Homework Equations


P = I*V = V^2/I = I^2*R
R = V/I
R = Ro [1 + coefficient of resistivity (T - To)]
R = p L / A
I = Q / t

The Attempt at a Solution


a) calculate average power required to warm the water to 100 degree C in 4 min
density = m / v ... v = m / density
v = A * L
v = 250 / 1000 = .25 m ^3 = A * L
R = p L / (.25/L) = p L^2 / .25

How do I calculate I for Power without knowing the charge?
 
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Shelby8 said:
How do I calculate I for Power without knowing the charge?
You should know (or be able to look up) an expression that relates power to voltage and current. Of course, you'll need to have completed part (a) to find the power requirement first.
 
If the wire is at 100C then it can't heat the water in 4 minutes or any other finite amount of time ...
 
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I suspect a badly designed question. I think they said to assume the wire is at a constant temperature so you would ignore it's thermal mass.
 
CWatters said:
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I suspect a badly designed question. I think they said to assume the wire is at a constant temperature so you would ignore it's thermal mass.
Either that or the office worker wanted a long rest pause ... :smile:
 

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