Am I wrong with my calculations or using wrong formula?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around a homework problem involving heat transfer calculations for a radiator system, where water and air are used as heat exchange fluids. Participants are examining the calculations and equations used to determine the heat transfer rates for both fluids, questioning the validity of the results obtained.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents a detailed calculation for heat transfer for both water and air, questioning the significant difference in results.
  • Another participant asks for clarification on the density of water used in the calculations.
  • A third participant notes that the water flow rate appears low and requests the actual problem statement for better context.
  • A later reply indicates a correction regarding the density of water, stating it should be 1000 kg/m³ instead of 1 kg/m³.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the calculations, as there are questions raised about the values used, particularly the density of water and the flow rate. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the accuracy of the initial calculations.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the problem statement, including potential missing assumptions about the flow rates and specific heat capacities. The discussion also highlights a dependency on the correct values for density and flow rate, which are critical for accurate heat transfer calculations.

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Homework Statement


I have a radiator through which water is passed at 90 degrees Celsius, the air speed as it passes through the radiator is 4ms-1. Water temperature difference between inlet and outlet of radiator is 28.33 K. Temperature difference between air before and after passing through radiator is 29K. Area of radiator core is 2.88 x 10^-2 m^2.

Homework Equations


Equation for heat transfer = W*Cp*ΔT where W is weighted flow and Cp is specific heat capacity of fluid.

For water heat transfer is = WCpΔT = QwpwCpΔT, where Qw is volumetric flow rate of water, pw is density of water and Cp is specific heat capacity of water at 90 degrees celsius.

so Qw = 2.5 x 10-5 m3s-1
pw = 1.0 kgm-3
Cp = 4.21
ΔT = 28.33 K

For air heat transfer is = WCpΔT = = Ar v CpΔT, where Ar is the surface area of radiator core, v is the velocity of air as it passes through the radiator core, Cp is the specific heat of air

so Ar = 2.88 x 10^-2
v = 4.0 ms-1
Cp = 1.0
ΔT = 29.0 K

The Attempt at a Solution



Heat transfer of water = 2.98 x 10^-3 kWatts
Heat transfer of air = 3.34 kWatts.

why am I getting such a huge difference between heat transfer of the two fluids ? are my equations wrong ?
 
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What is the density of water?
 
That water flow rate seems very low. I don't see a water flow rate in the problem statement. What is the actual problem statement?

Chet
 
thanks for your replies, I figured out I was using the wrong density of water, it should be 1000 instead of 1
 

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