Ampere's law and induced current

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The discussion focuses on applying Ampere's law to a problem involving induced current and magnetic fields around a wire. The magnetic field is calculated using the formula B = μI/2πr, where the path length is the circumference of a circle. The net force on a rectangular loop in the magnetic field is analyzed, showing that forces on opposite sides cancel out, leading to a specific expression for the net force. Torque considerations reveal that the torques from the top and bottom sections of the loop also cancel, resulting in a net torque of zero. Overall, the calculations confirm the relationships between magnetic fields, forces, and torques in this scenario.
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Homework Statement


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Homework Equations


∫BdL = μI

The Attempt at a Solution


a) the magnetic field is a circle around the wire so the length of the path is the circumference of the circle which is 2πr

∫BdL = BL = μI
B(2πr) = μI
B = μI/2πr
in this problem it is into the page (right hand rule)

b) The force on the top part of the rectangle will be down and the bottom part it will be up but they will cancel because the directions are opposite and B will be the same at each point.
The net force on the rectangle will be the sum of the force on the left part and the right part. The force on the left part will be to the right (F1) and the force on the right part will be to the left (F2)
so F = F1 - F2
F = ILB1- ILB2
the length is the same so
F = IL(B1-B2) = IL(μI/2πr1 - μI/2πr2) = I^2Lμ/2π(1/r1 - 1/r2)
r1 = .02m r2 = .05 m I = 6 A L = .1 m
F = (36)(.1)μ/2π(1/.02 - 1/.05) = (3.6)(30)μ/2π (to the right)

c) I think the net torque is 0 but I am not sure. I think it is because they are on the same plane so sinθ = 0 ?
 

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toothpaste666 said:
c) I think the net torque is 0 but I am not sure. I think it is because they are on the same plane so sinθ = 0 ?
Good on parts a and b. On part c they did not specify the axis about which torque is to be determined. I would guess they meant the wire.
So torque is developed in one angular direction by the outside section of the loop and in the other by the inside section. What are those torques?
(Remember, torque is a vector so your answer should include the direction of net torque, e.g. by use of the appropriate unit vector.)
 
Torque is rFsinθ where r is the distance from the axis, F is the force and θ is the angle between them. The top and bottom sections of the loops torques will again cancel.
for the left section the F and r are parallel so sinθ is 0 and the torque is 0. for the right section F is to the left and is again parallel with r so the torque would be 0?
 
toothpaste666 said:
Torque is rFsinθ where r is the distance from the axis, F is the force and θ is the angle between them. The top and bottom sections of the loops torques will again cancel.
for the left section the F and r are parallel so sinθ is 0 and the torque is 0. for the right section F is to the left and is again parallel with r so the torque would be 0?

You are correct. I got confused on the direction of F. o:)
 
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