Ampere's Law -- What is the meaning behind each part?

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The discussion revolves around understanding Ampere's Law, particularly the interpretation of its components and their application in calculating magnetic fields generated by current-carrying wires. Participants are exploring the relationship between the law and similar principles found in Gauss's Law.

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  • Participants are questioning how to interpret the terms in Ampere's Law and whether the magnetic field can be considered uniform around a wire. There is a discussion about the appropriate radius to use in calculations and the symmetry involved in applying the law.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing insights and prompting further examination of Ampere's Law. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of symmetry in calculations, but there is no explicit consensus on the interpretations being explored.

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There are indications of confusion regarding the uniformity of the magnetic field created by a wire and how this relates to the application of Ampere's Law compared to Gauss's Law. Participants are encouraged to revisit their textbooks for clarification.

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So I know that SB · dl = u0I (sorry this is the only way that was working). But I was wondering what each part meant? Cause in Gauss's law, the SE · dA is the object that is being used to calculate electric field and in Ampere's, it is meant to be similar. So if we had a wire of radius a. This wire creates a uniform field. If we had to calculate the field at point b outside the wire, what would the equation look like? From what I have learned, we would use a circle for this. So B(2pi a) or B(2pi b)?
Relevant Equations
S B · dl = u0I
I believe it would be B(2pi b) but I'm not sure how exactly to explain why.
 
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np115 said:
Homework Statement:: So I know that SB · dl = u0I (sorry this is the only way that was working). But I was wondering what each part meant? Cause in Gauss's law, the SE · dA is the object that is being used to calculate electric field and in Ampere's, it is meant to be similar. So if we had a wire of radius a. This wire creates a uniform field. If we had to calculate the field at point b outside the wire, what would the equation look like? From what I have learned, we would use a circle for this. So B(2pi a) or B(2pi b)?
Relevant Equations:: S B · dl = u0I

I believe it would be B(2pi b) but I'm not sure how exactly to explain why.
You need to read Ampere's law carefully.
 
np115 said:
This wire creates a uniform field. If we had to calculate the field at point b outside the wire, what would the equation look like?
No wire creates a uniform magnetic field.
If you wanted to calculate the electric field due to a charged sphere of radius ##a## at point ##b## outside the sphere, would you use ##E (4 \pi a^2)## or ##E (4 \pi b^2)## on the left hand side of the equation for Gauss's law? Why?

I agree with @rude man: study Ampere's law some more and pay attention to how it is used in your textbook's examples.
 
Of course a single current-conducting wire doesn't create a uniform magnetic field, but you can use symmetry for the simple case of an infinitely long wire. You know by symmetry that the magnetic field is always of the form ##\vec{B}(\vec{r})=B(R) \vec{e}_{\varphi}##, where I've put the wire along the ##z##-axis of a cylinder-coordinate system ##(R,\varphi,z)##.

To get ##B(R)## just use Ampere's circuital law with a circle of radius ##R## around the ##z##-axis in a plane perpendicular to the ##z##-axis.
 

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