Amplitude of a Damped, Driven Pendulum

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The discussion revolves around a simple pendulum undergoing damped and driven vibrations. The pendulum has a specified length and experiences a decay in amplitude over a set number of swings. Participants are exploring the conditions under which the amplitude reaches half of its resonant value, with a focus on the relationship between angular frequencies.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are questioning whether to solve for the angular frequency ω or the undamped natural frequency ω0. There is also a mention of the complexity involved in directly solving for ω.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on the distinction between ω and ω0, while others are awaiting further input from the original poster before proceeding with their own contributions. The discussion is active with multiple interpretations being explored.

Contextual Notes

There is an emphasis on not highjacking the thread and allowing the original poster to respond before others proceed with their attempts. The nature of the problem suggests constraints related to the mathematical modeling of the pendulum's motion.

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Homework Statement



A simple pendulum has a length of 1m. In free vibration the amplitude of its swings falls off by a factor of e in 50 swings. The pendulum is set into forced vibration by moving its point of suspension horizontally in SHM with an amplitude of 1 mm.

a) [... Built Differential ...]

b) [... Found Amplitude at exact resonance = 0.1576m ...]

c) At what angular frequencies is the amplitude half of its resonant value?

Homework Equations



A_m = 0.1576 m

F/m = \frac{gζ}{l}

Let ζ = amplitude of driver.

Q= 50 π

A(ω) = \frac{F/m}{((ω_0^2 - ω^2)^2 + (γω)^2)^{0.5}}

The Attempt at a Solution



Solution is exactly stated as: "ω0 ± 0.017 sec-1"

Am I solving for ω or ω0?
 
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AJKing said:

Homework Statement



A simple pendulum has a length of 1m. In free vibration the amplitude of its swings falls off by a factor of e in 50 swings. The pendulum is set into forced vibration by moving its point of suspension horizontally in SHM with an amplitude of 1 mm.

a) [... Built Differential ...]

b) [... Found Amplitude at exact resonance = 0.1576m ...]

c) At what angular frequencies is the amplitude half of its resonant value?

Homework Equations



A_m = 0.1576 m

F/m = \frac{gζ}{l}

Let ζ = amplitude of driver.

Q= 50 π

A(ω) = \frac{F/m}{((ω_0^2 - ω^2)^2 + (γω)^2)^{0.5}}

The Attempt at a Solution



Solution is exactly stated as: "ω0 ± 0.017 sec-1"

Am I solving for ω or ω0?

Definitely ω, ω0 is the undamped natural frequency.
 
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Can you explain to me how did you solve this question ? Thank you
 
Pqpolalk357 said:
Can you explain to me how did you solve this question ? Thank you

I didn't solve any equation. I just told AJKing whether to solve for ω or ω0
 
Do you know by any chance how to proceed ?
 
Pqpolalk357 said:
Do you know by any chance how to proceed ?

Yes i know how to proceed but let OP reply first. Highjacking a thread is not allowed here at PF!
 
Please explain to me how to proceed.
 
It would seem obvious how to proceed - solve for ω - but it is difficult to do directly.

Here's Wolfram Alpha's attempt at solving this:

A(ω) = \frac{F/m}{((ω_0^2 - ω^2)^2 + (γω)^2)^{0.5}}

Where ω0 = g0.5

We must keep out eyes for clever approximations.
 

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