An angle at which the body cannot be moved

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The discussion centers on determining the maximum angle (ALPHA) at which a box can be pushed across a floor at a constant velocity, given a coefficient of kinetic friction of 0.41. The participant attempts to derive the relationship between the pushing force, the angle, and the normal force, ultimately concluding that the angle must be approximately 67.7 degrees for movement to be impossible. The participant's calculations reveal a misunderstanding of the normal force, which must account for both gravitational force and the vertical component of the pushing force. Correcting this leads to a more accurate understanding of the forces at play.

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Homework Statement


While moving in, a new homeowner is pushing a box across the floor at a constant velocity. The coefficient of kinetic friction between the box and the floor is 0.41. The pushing force is directed downward at an angle ALPHA below the horizontal. when ALOHA is greater than a certain value, it is not possible to move the box, no matter how large the pushing force is. Find that value of ALPHA.

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friction = coefficient * normal force

The Attempt at a Solution



I feel really stupid not to succeed doing this..
this is what I've tried to do:
a is ALPHA
u is drag coefficient
N is the normal force (between floor and box)
F is the pushing force)

F * cos (a) <= u * N
N = mg + F sin (a)

F (cos (a) - usin (a)) < umg

this should be true no matter what the value of F is..
as F is getting bigger, the right side value is staying the same,
so i thought, the only case this is true for every positive F, is when
cos(a) - usin(a) <= 0

math allow us to go here:

(cos 2 (a)) * (1+u2) = u2

and here because u is known, (0.41)

a = 67.7 (approx.)

but it doesn't seems to be the right answer..

please to explain how'd you do that.thanks
p.s.
mathematically, another answer is (-67.7), which doesn't make any sense at all... can anyone explain it to me?
 
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Your normal force is wrong. Gravity, the normal force and the vertical component of the pushing force must cancel.
 
willem2 said:
Your normal force is wrong. Gravity, the normal force and the vertical component of the pushing force must cancel.

oh sorry, by this:
N = mg * F sin (a)

i ment:
N = mg + F * sin (a)
 

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