An Electron coming from the nucleus in Beta Decay?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the process of beta decay, specifically addressing the origin of electrons in this phenomenon and the role of quarks within protons and neutrons. Participants seek clarification on the mechanisms involved in beta decay and the creation of particles during this process.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about the explanation given by their physics teacher regarding electrons originating from the nucleus during beta decay, specifically relating to quarks in protons and neutrons.
  • Another participant explains that an up quark can decay into a down quark, resulting in the creation of a positron and an electron-antineutrino, clarifying that while electrons are produced, they do not exist within the nucleus prior to decay.
  • A further contribution references related processes such as positron emission and electron capture, suggesting a broader context for understanding beta decay.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants appear to share a general understanding of the decay process involving quarks, but there is no consensus on the initial confusion regarding the presence of electrons in the nucleus, as it remains a point of clarification rather than agreement.

Contextual Notes

The discussion does not resolve the initial misunderstanding about the explanation of beta decay, and the specifics of quark interactions and particle creation remain complex and potentially dependent on further definitions and context.

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Hi guys, essentially I have been talking with my Physics teacher about Beta Decay and she was saying that sometimes electrons come from the nucleus because of the quarks in the protons and the neutrons? I didn't fully understand it so I have likely got it wrong what she was trying to explain. Do you know what I am trying to get at? It would great if anyone could give me any sort of clarification. Thanks in advance :)
 
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Hi MattA147! :smile:

See eg http://www.schoolphysics.co.uk/age16-19/Nuclear physics/Nuclear structure/text/Quarks_/index.html, and …

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The underlying process is that an u-quark can decay into d-quark plus positron and electron-antineutrino. On the level of the nucleon it's the the proton (uud) that decays into a neutron (udd) plus positron and electron-antineutrino. So there "are no electrons and positrons inside the nucleus", but there is a decay of the quarks where these new particles are created.
 
Thank you very much for your help it has certainly made a difference thanks again for everyone's contributions. :)
 

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