An Erect Man Falls Into Water from a Platform

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The problem involves a 78 kg man who falls from a 2.6 m high diving platform and comes to rest 1.7 seconds after hitting the water. The objective is to determine the average force exerted by the water on the man during this time, with the acceleration due to gravity given as 9.8 m/s².

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between gravitational potential energy and kinetic energy to find the man's velocity before hitting the water. There is an exploration of using momentum equations to find the average force exerted by the water. Some participants question the correct interpretation of net force versus the force exerted by the water.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, attempting to clarify their understanding of the relationships between energy, momentum, and force. There is recognition of different interpretations regarding the forces involved, and some guidance has been offered regarding the distinction between net force and the force due to the water.

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Some participants express uncertainty about deriving velocity from distance and gravitational acceleration alone. There is also a mention of needing to understand the process for test preparation, indicating a focus on learning rather than simply obtaining an answer.

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Homework Statement


A 78kg man, standing erect, steps off a 2.6m high diving platform and begins to fall from rest. The man comes to rest 1.7s after reaching the water.

The acceleration of gravity is 9.8 m/s^2

What average force did the water exert on him?

Answer: 1091.94 N

Homework Equations


F= (deltaP)/(deltaT)
2x=gt^2
v=d/t

The Attempt at a Solution


The first mistake I made was using 1.7s as the time until the man hit the water to find the velocity at the moment before the man hits the water (v = 2.6/1.7), but this got me no where.

I think I need to find the time between when the man jumps and after he falls 2.6m later. I don't know of a way to dervie velocity from only having the distance one falls and the acceleration of gravity. Once I do find that I think I can get the initial velocity and the final velocity, and then I can use the momentum equation to find out the average force exerted. The answer was given to me, but I need to know and understand the process to get it for the test. Anyone have any ideas?
 
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At a height of 2.6m, a man of mass 78 kg will have how much gravitational pe? Right before he hits the water, all this energy is converted into kinetic energy. So his velocity before he hits the water is?
 
The velocity I found was 7.1386.

Then I set mgh = .5mv^2

78*9.8*2.6 = .5*78*v^2

I found that by v=sqrt(2gh)

Then I used final momentum is equal to initial momentum + (Fnet)(deltaT)

I got 0 = 556.8108 + 1.7Fnet

Fnet = 327.536 N

Where do I go wrong?
 
How else can the formula for Newton's Second Law be formulated as opposed to the change in momentum divided by the change in time?

Edit: What I meant was what is the form of the formula most known to people?
 
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Destructo_Dav said:
Fnet = 327.536 N

Where do I go wrong?
You found the net force, but the question asks for the force due to the water. They are different.
 

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