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The discussion revolves around solving a differential equation as part of preparation for a graduate school entrance exam in analysis. The specific equation under consideration is xy'' + y' - x = 0, and participants are exploring various methods to find the general solution while adhering to a prescribed procedure involving substitutions and transformations.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the substitution of p = y' to express p' in terms of p and x, questioning whether the resulting equation is homogeneous. There is an exploration of definitions of homogeneity in the context of differential equations.
  • Some participants attempt to follow the prescribed procedure, expressing concerns about the homogeneity of the transformed equations and suggesting alternative approaches to reach a solution.
  • There are attempts to manipulate the equations into separable forms and discussions about the implications of variable substitutions on the nature of the equations.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants actively engaging in questioning the assumptions behind the definitions of homogeneity and exploring different methods to approach the problem. Some guidance has been provided regarding the interpretation of homogeneity, but no consensus has been reached on the best path forward.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the complexity of the problem and the constraints imposed by the requirement to follow a specific procedure for solving the differential equation. There is acknowledgment of varying interpretations of homogeneity and the challenges posed by the original problem's structure.

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Hello there. I'm studying for graduate school entrance exam (nagoya university), and analysis is part of it. I've learned calculus on my undergraduate course but since I didn't get differential equations, I'm kinda learning it by myself right now.

The questions are from past problems which are publicly available. I can solve some already (like second order homogenous linear ones with constant coefficients), but I'm stuck on some. I would really appreciate some help, even if only hints or keywords so that I can search more about it myself.

Homework Statement



We are supposed to find the general solution y for the given differential equation below:

xy'' + y' - x = 0

However we are to follow the following procedure:

a) By substituting p = y', express p' in terms of p and x
b) Make the equation in (a) homogeneous by setting p=xu. Then solve the resulting differential equation and express u in terms of x
c) Using the result in (b) and the fact that p = xu = y', give the general solution for the original differential equation (express y in terms of x)

(the original question is in Japanese. This is my best translation attempt)

2. The attempt at a solution

(a)

if p = y', then clearly p' = y''. So

xy'' + y' - x = 0 implies
xp' + p - x = 0
xp' = x - p
p' = (x - p)/x

My question here is, isn't the equation homogeneous already? if f(x, p) = (x-p)/x, then clearly f(tx, tp) = f(x, p) (my understanding of the definition of homogeneous)

(b)

If we substitute p = xu, then p' = u + xu', so

p' = (x - p)/x implies
u + xu' = (x - xu)/x
u' = (1-2u)/x

Which isn't homogeneous at all! What I'm I doing wrong here?

Note that I can solve the differential equation by deviating from the hinted procedure. From

xp' + p - x = 0

And the fact that:

\frac{d}{dx}(xp) = x\frac{d}{dx}p + p<br />

We can write

\frac{d}{dx}(xp) - x = 0<br />

\frac{d}{dx}(xp) = x<br />

xp = \frac{1}{2}x^2 + C<br />

p = \frac{1}{2}x + \frac{C}{x}<br />

y&#039; = \frac{1}{2}x + \frac{C}{x}<br />

y = \frac{1}{4}x^2 + C ln|x| + D<br />

How do I solve it by following the procedure? Thanks!
 
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agro said:
Hello there. I'm studying for graduate school entrance exam (nagoya university), and analysis is part of it. I've learned calculus on my undergraduate course but since I didn't get differential equations, I'm kinda learning it by myself right now.

The questions are from past problems which are publicly available. I can solve some already (like second order homogenous linear ones with constant coefficients), but I'm stuck on some. I would really appreciate some help, even if only hints or keywords so that I can search more about it myself.

Homework Statement



We are supposed to find the general solution y for the given differential equation below:

xy'' + y' - x = 0

However we are to follow the following procedure:

a) By substituting p = y', express p' in terms of p and x
b) Make the equation in (a) homogeneous by setting p=xu. Then solve the resulting differential equation and express u in terms of x
c) Using the result in (b) and the fact that p = xu = y', give the general solution for the original differential equation (express y in terms of x)

(the original question is in Japanese. This is my best translation attempt)

2. The attempt at a solution

(a)

if p = y', then clearly p' = y''. So

xy'' + y' - x = 0 implies
xp' + p - x = 0
xp' = x - p
p' = (x - p)/x

My question here is, isn't the equation homogeneous already? if f(x, p) = (x-p)/x, then clearly f(tx, tp) = f(x, p) (my understanding of the definition of homogeneous)
there are differenet meanings to homogenous, I've usually used the follwoing for a 2nd order DE, say you have
a_2(x)y&#039;&#039; + a_1(x)y&#039; + a_0(x)y = f(x)

then the definition of homogenous is that f(x) = 0

this means if you think of the differential equation as an operator, L, it is linear in y, so let
\hat{L} = a_2(x)\frac{\partial^2}{\partial y^2} +a_1(x)\frac{\partial}{\partial y} + a_0(x)y

it is linear as
\hat{L} (y_1 + y_2) = \hat{L} y_1 + \hat{L} y_2

which is not the case with the x term

if you write the original DE as
xy&#039;&#039; + y&#039; = x

it is not homgoenous due to the x term,

after the variable change you have
xp&#039; + p = x

which is not homogenous for the same reason...
 
agro said:
(b)

If we substitute p = xu, then p' = u + xu', so

p' = (x - p)/x implies
u + xu' = (x - xu)/x
u' = (1-2u)/x

Which isn't homogeneous at all! What I'm I doing wrong here?
so starting from
xp&#039; + p = x

then as you say subsititute p = xu, then p' = u + xu', so
x(u + xu&#039;) + xu = x

which gives
x^2 u&#039; + 2xu = x

then
xu&#039; + 2u = 1

so by the definition I gave, this is still not homogenous, but it is very close, if you let u = v+1/2, then u' = v' and you get
xv&#039; + 2v = 0
 
Thanks for the reply lanedance. Your explanation from the viewpoint of operator is interesting.

Anyway I tried following the substitution as is, and after playing around a bit I can transform it into a separable form...

u' = (1-2u)/x
du/dx = (1/x)/(1/(1-2u))
\frac{1}{x}dx + \frac{1}{2u-1}du = 0

Integrating both sides and performing back substitutions, we will get the same result but with a more tedious process.
 
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