Analyzing an RC Circuit with a Sudden Switch Closure

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The problem involves analyzing an RC circuit where a switch has been open for a long time and is suddenly closed. Participants are tasked with determining the time constants before and after the switch closure, as well as the current in the switch as a function of time after the closure.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Problem interpretation

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  • The original poster attempts to find the charge on the capacitor and questions the implications of the switch being open for an extended period. They express confusion about calculating charge and the effective resistance when resistors are in series but not adjacent. Other participants clarify the behavior of capacitors in circuits and suggest using Kirchhoff's laws for analyzing current flow after the switch is closed.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active with participants exploring different interpretations of the circuit behavior. Some guidance has been offered regarding the treatment of resistors and the application of Kirchhoff's laws, but there is no explicit consensus on the approach to finding the charge or current functions.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working under the assumption that the switch has been open long enough for the capacitor to charge fully, and there is uncertainty regarding the configuration of the resistors in relation to the capacitor and battery.

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Homework Statement


In a circuit, the switch S has been open for a long time. It is then suddenly closed. Determine the time constant (a) before the switch is closed (b) after the switch is closed. (c) let the switch be closed at t=0. Determine the current in the switch as a function of time.


Homework Equations


for charging cap
q(t) = CE[1-e^(-t/RC)]
I(t) = E/Re^(-t/RC)
c=q/v v=IR

The Attempt at a Solution



I assume that since it has been open for a long time the cap is fully charged to 1E-6F. Using the first equation I can't find Q because if you plug in q=cv in the equation it is ln(1)=0 then the time is 0. I know that the answer to a is t=1.5s from the back of the book. I guess I just don't know how to find Q. Also, since the 50kohm and 100kohm resistors are in series but not next to each other can I used the series law to make it a 150kohm resistor. I guess I don't know since there is either a capacitor or a battery in between them.
 

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Capacitors do not get charged up to a certain capacitance, They get charged until the voltage across them is so high that no more current can flow.
If you have a capacitor, a resistor and a battery in series, that point is reached once the voltage across the capacitor is equal to the voltage across the battery, so the voltage across the resistor is 0.

Unfortunately I can't see the picture yet.
 
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If the switch is open the resistors and the capacitor will all have the same current passing through them. that means it's OK to swap two of them around. You can prove this with kirchhofs loop law. After the switch closes you have two loops with the current in them independent. The sum of those currents goes through the switch
 
So basically I can treat the two resistors as being in series, but when the switch is closed I must use kirchhoff's laws? Sounds right to me.
 

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