Angular acceleration of a rod - 2

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The discussion revolves around the angular acceleration of a rod in a scenario involving rotational equilibrium, tension in a spring, and the effects of cutting a cord. Participants are examining the dynamics of the system as it transitions from equilibrium to motion.

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  • Participants explore the initial conditions of the rod, including the balance of forces and torques. There is a focus on the implications of cutting the cord and how it affects the forces acting on the rod, particularly the spring force. Some question the correctness of the original poster's approach and suggest alternative points of reference for calculations.

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There is an ongoing examination of the assumptions made regarding the forces at play when the cord is cut. Some participants have provided feedback on the original poster's reasoning, indicating that the approach may need adjustment based on the point of rotation. The discussion reflects a mix of agreement and differing interpretations regarding the dynamics involved.

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Participants note that the spring force does not change instantaneously upon cutting the cord, which raises questions about the timing and nature of the forces involved in the system. There is an acknowledgment of the need to consider different points of rotation for accurate analysis.

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Initially the rod is in rotational equilibrium , so net torque about CM is zero .

From torque equation about CM , we get

Tension T in the left string = Force F (kx) in the spring

Doing a force balance gives us T+F=Mg

2F=Mg

F=Mg/2

Now when the string is cut , force equation in vertical direction is Mg - F = Ma

Torque equation about the CM is F(L/2) = (ML2/12)α

F = Mg/2 since force exerted by spring remains same just after right string is cut .

Using value of F in the above two eqs gives a = g/2 and α = (3g/L)

Have I approached it correctly ?
 

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Vibhor said:
Have I approached it correctly ?
No. When the cord is cut, the rod will rotate about its end at A. It is best to do your calculation about that end. Then you will see that the force exerted by the spring changes when the cord is cut.
 
kuruman said:
No. When the cord is cut, the rod will rotate about its end at A. It is best to do your calculation about that end. Then you will see that the force exerted by the spring changes when the cord is cut.

Just after the cord is cut , the spring length doesn't change instantaneously , which means force exerted by spring doesn't change immediately when the cord is cut .

I don't see how spring force is different before and just after cord is cut .
 
Vibhor said:
Just after the cord is cut , the spring length doesn't change instantaneously , which means force exerted by spring doesn't change immediately when the cord is cut .
That is true. I was thinking about another situation when a stated that the force changes. For this problem, the angular acceleration for rotations about the CM is the one that makes sense. Your solution looks good.
 
Thanks
 
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