Angular momentum, block plus bullet

Click For Summary

Homework Help Overview

The problem involves a wooden block attached to a pivoted rod and a bullet that strikes the block, raising questions about the conservation of angular momentum in the system. The subject area is angular momentum in mechanics.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the initial and final angular momentum of the system, questioning the application of conservation principles. Some express confusion about whether the angular momentum changes upon collision and whether they are overcomplicating the problem.

Discussion Status

There is a recognition of the conservation of angular momentum, with some participants suggesting that the initial and final angular momentum are equal. Guidance has been offered regarding the interpretation of the problem, but no explicit consensus has been reached on the specifics of the calculations.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the problem does not specify the timing of the angular momentum calculations relative to the collision, which may affect their interpretations.

timnswede
Messages
100
Reaction score
0

Homework Statement


A wooden block of mass M resting on a frictionless, horizontal surface is attached to a rigid rod of length l and of negligible mass. The rod is pivoted at the other end. A bullet of mass m traveling parallel to the horizontal surface and perpendicular to the rod with speed v hits the block and becomes embedded in it.
a.) What is the angular momentum of the bullet-block system about a vertical axis through the pivot.

Homework Equations


L=r x p

The Attempt at a Solution


So I got L initial, which is mvl and L final which is (m+M)vfl. What I thought the angular momentum would be would be L final - L initial, but the answer is apparently mvl down, which is just the bullet. Where did I go wrong?
 
Physics news on Phys.org
timnswede said:
So I got L initial, which is mvl and L final which is (m+M)vfl. What I thought the angular momentum would be would be L final - L initial, but the answer is apparently mvl down, which is just the bullet. Where did I go wrong?
What question are you trying to answer? (You only listed part a.) Would you expect the angular momentum to change upon collision?
 
Doc Al said:
What question are you trying to answer? (You only listed part a.) Would you expect the angular momentum to change upon collision?
I only put part A since I understand part B.
Is it really that easy and I am just overcomplicating it? Since angular momentum is conserved, then L initial equals L final and that is why the answer is just mvl, since it is is the same as the final angular momentum?
 
timnswede said:
Is it really that easy and I am just overcomplicating it? Since angular momentum is conserved, then L initial equals L final and that is why the answer is just mvl, since it is is the same as the final angular momentum?
Yes, that's all there is to it. Note that the question (at least as you quoted it) does not specify before or after the collision. It doesn't matter: angular momentum is conserved.
 
Doc Al said:
Yes, that's all there is to it. Note that the question (at least as you quoted it) does not specify before or after the collision. It doesn't matter: angular momentum is conserved.
OK, thank you. That was actually a really easy question then.
 

Similar threads

Replies
17
Views
2K
  • · Replies 17 ·
Replies
17
Views
1K
Replies
21
Views
3K
Replies
10
Views
3K
  • · Replies 57 ·
2
Replies
57
Views
4K
  • · Replies 71 ·
3
Replies
71
Views
4K
  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
3K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
2K
  • · Replies 62 ·
3
Replies
62
Views
14K
Replies
335
Views
17K