Angular momentum operator commutation relation

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The discussion focuses on the commutation relation of the angular momentum operators, specifically the proof of the relation \(\left[ \hat{L}_x, \hat{L}_y \right] = i \hbar \hat{L}_z\). Participants analyze the application of the product rule in the context of wavefunctions and derivatives, particularly in the expression involving \(\hat{L}_x\) and \(\hat{L}_y\). The conversation highlights the importance of recognizing independent variables in partial derivatives, which leads to the conclusion that certain terms vanish, simplifying the calculations.

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I am reading a proof of why

\left[ \hat{L}_x, \hat{L}_y \right ] = i \hbar \hat{L}_z

Given a wavefunction \psi,
\hat{L}_x, \hat{L}_y \psi = \left( -i\hbar \right)^2 \left( y \frac{\partial}{\partial z} - z \frac {\partial}{\partial y} \right ) \left (z \frac{\partial \psi}{\partial x} - x \frac{\partial \psi}{\partial z } \right )

= -\hbar ^2 \left ( yz \frac{\partial ^2 \psi}{\partial z \partial x} + y \frac{\partial \psi}{\partial x} - yx \frac{\partial ^2 \psi}{\partial z^2} - z^2 \frac{\partial ^2 \psi}{\partial y \partial x} + zx \frac{\partial ^2 \psi}{\partial y \partial z} \right )

This is a simple expansion of the brackets. I don't understand however, where the second term in the brackets of the last equation comes from?
 
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Use the product rule to calculate ##y \frac{\partial}{\partial z} \left(z\frac{\partial \psi}{\partial x}\right)## because both ##z## and ##\frac{\partial \psi}{\partial x}## are a function of ##z##.
 
The product rule:
$$
y\cdot \frac{\partial}{\partial z}(z \cdot \frac{\partial \psi}{\partial x})= y\cdot \frac{\partial}{\partial z}(z)\cdot \frac{\partial \psi}{\partial x} + y\cdot z\cdot \frac{\partial}{\partial z}(\frac{\partial \psi}{\partial x})=y \cdot 1 \cdot \frac{\partial \psi}{\partial x} + y\cdot z \cdot \frac{\partial^2 \psi}{\partial z \partial x}
$$
 
fresh_42 said:
The product rule:
$$
y\cdot \frac{\partial}{\partial z}(z \cdot \frac{\partial \psi}{\partial x})= y\cdot \frac{\partial}{\partial z}(z)\cdot \frac{\partial \psi}{\partial x} + y\cdot z\cdot \frac{\partial}{\partial z}(\frac{\partial \psi}{\partial x})=y \cdot 1 \cdot \frac{\partial \psi}{\partial x} + y\cdot z \cdot \frac{\partial^2 \psi}{\partial z \partial x}
$$
yes I understand that but why not, by the same reasoning, this is not applied on the other terms? (or maybe it is and I am not seeing it) i.e. why not

y \frac{\partial}{\partial z} \left( -x \frac {\partial \psi}{\partial z} \right ) = y \frac{\partial(-x)}{\partial z} \frac{\partial \psi}{\partial z} - xy \frac{ \partial ^2 \psi}{\partial z^2}

but just y \frac{\partial}{\partial z} \left( -x \frac {\partial \psi}{\partial z} \right ) = - xy \frac{ \partial ^2 \psi}{\partial z^2}
 
What is ##y \frac{\partial(-x)}{\partial z}## equal to? Recall that ##x## and ##z## are independent variables.
 
blue_leaf77 said:
What is ##y \frac{\partial(-x)}{\partial z}## equal to? Recall that ##x## and ##z## are independent variables.
yep that is zero. it just slipped my mind. Thanks
 

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