Angular Momentum: P.A.M Dirac QM Principles Explained

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The discussion centers around the interpretation of angular momentum in quantum mechanics as presented by P.A.M. Dirac, specifically addressing a passage regarding the magnitude of angular momentum and its implications. Participants explore the mathematical relationships involved and the clarity of the text in relation to modern understanding.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the relationship between the expressions given in Dirac's text, suggesting a potential misreading of the passage regarding angular momentum magnitude.
  • Another participant proposes that the magnitude of ##\vec m## being 0.5 in units of hbar implies that ##\vec m\cdot \vec m = 1/4##, leading to the conclusion that the original question cannot be correct.
  • A different viewpoint suggests that the second expression may correspond to the value of sqrt(m(m+1)) with m = 1/2, indicating a possible connection to different quantum states.
  • One participant recommends consulting more recent publications on quantum mechanics, implying that older texts may present concepts in a way that is less accessible to contemporary students.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing interpretations of the text and its implications, indicating that there is no consensus on the correct understanding of the angular momentum expressions presented by Dirac.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights potential limitations in the clarity of Dirac's text and the evolution of quantum mechanics education over time, but does not resolve the specific mathematical or conceptual uncertainties raised.

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Hi, In the principles of quantum mechanics by P.A.M Dirac it says on page 149,

For dealing with an angular momentum whose magnitude is 0.5(h_bar), it is convenient to put
m=0.5(h_bar)a
how is this if (m.m)^0.5= (3/4)^0.5*(h_bar)? Thanks
 
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Thanks for the post! Sorry you aren't generating responses at the moment. Do you have any further information, come to any new conclusions or is it possible to reword the post?
 
"the magnitude of ##\vec m## is 0.5" (in units of hbar) means ##\vec m\cdot \vec m = 1/4## - so I think the answer to the question is "it cannot be".

Probably the passage has been misread, those two expressions appear to be for different states - but there is not enough of the book quoted to make the context clear.
 
Agree. The second expression looks like the value sqrt(m(m+1)) with m =1/2.
 
The book being used was published in 1930 - I think the best advise is to get hold of a more recent publication.
They did a lot of things back then, like the above, that can be confusing to the modern student. The recent texts take advantage of advances in education, as well as understanding of QM, made in the last 80-odd years.
 

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