Angular Momentum: Position, Velocity, and Acceleration in Circular Motion

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around a problem involving angular momentum and circular motion, specifically focusing on a small object moving in a circular path with constant speed. Participants are tasked with determining the object's position vector, quadrant location, velocity, acceleration, and the total force exerted on it after an angular displacement.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the relationship between angular displacement and the position of the object on the circle, questioning how to calculate the resulting position vector after a specified angular movement.
  • Some participants discuss the significance of radians in circular motion and how to convert angular measurements into linear components.
  • There are attempts to clarify the relationship between the components of vectors and their respective angles, with questions about the correct application of trigonometric functions.
  • Others seek guidance on calculating velocity and acceleration components based on the established position vector.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants providing hints and guidance to each other. Some have made progress in understanding the relationship between angular displacement and position, while others are still grappling with the calculations for velocity and acceleration components. There is a collaborative effort to clarify concepts and ensure understanding of the geometry involved.

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Participants are working under the constraints of a homework assignment, which may limit the information they can share or the methods they can use. There is an emphasis on drawing diagrams to aid in understanding the problem setup and calculations.

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Homework Statement


A small object with mass 3.20 kg moves counterclockwise with constant speed 6.30 m/s in a circle of radius 4.70 m centered at the origin. It starts at the point with position vector (4.70 i+ 0j ) m. Then it undergoes an angular displacement of 8.00 rad.
What it its position vector?
In what quadrant is the particle located and what angle does its position vector make with the positive x-axis?
What is its velocity?
What is its acceleration?
What total force is exerted on the object?


Homework Equations


i believe its the kinematics equations just replaced with angular speed and acceleration variables



The Attempt at a Solution


honestly..i think i should know how to do this but i can't seem to figure it out
any lil start would help..thanks
 
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How many radians in a circle?
 
umm isn't like 2pi radians
 
physics_geek said:
umm isn't like 2pi radians
Yes. Use that fact to figure out where the object ends up on the circle after it moves 8.00 radians.
 
ok so it goes around 4 times i guess?
i still don't understand
 
8 much less than 4*2Pi.
 
ok so i did 8rad/2pi = 1.27
what do i do with this information?
 
So the object has undergone 1 full revolution and .27 of a full revolution, which means that the rotation of the object from its original location is .27*2Pi radians. Can you see why and how to get the resulting vector? It is very important to draw a picture since this is the first time you are doing this.
 
hmm ok so I am pretty sure this means the particle is in the second quadrant right?
so .27*2Pi = 1.70...im not quite sure how to get the resulting vector tho...is it just 4.7*1.70?
 
  • #10
physics_geek said:
hmm ok so I am pretty sure this means the particle is in the second quadrant right?
so .27*2Pi = 1.70...im not quite sure how to get the resulting vector tho...is it just 4.7*1.70?

4.7 is the length of the vector along the x-axis, while 1.7 is the angle the vector we are looking for makes with the x-axis. Why are you multiplying a length with an angle?
Draw a picture. We want to rotate the vector 4.7i + 0j, which luckily lies along the x-axis, 1.7 radians. The length of the vector is 4.7, so by the definition of sine and cosine, this gives us 4.7*sin(1.7) for the y-component and 4.7*cos(1.7) for the x-component. Remember that the 1.7 is in radians, not degrees. You will have to translate that if you are using a calculator that only works in degrees.
If you have drawn a diagram, you might also notice that this is the same as 4.7*sin(Pi - 1.7) and -4.7*cos(Pi - 1.7).
 
  • #11
wow okay that makes so much more sense
so for x component = -.61
y component = 4.67

how do i do part b
i think part c for xcomponent its -6.30 m/s but i don't know the y component
 
  • #12
physics_geek said:
how do i do part b
You already know the angle it makes from part a. From the signs of the components, or from your knowledge of angles, you should know the quadrant.
physics_geek said:
i think part c for xcomponent its -6.30 m/s but i don't know the y component
Draw a diagram. The tangential velocity vector starts at the tip of the position vector for the particle, is perpendicular to the position vector, and you have its length of 6.3. Getting the components is geometry/trigonometry similar to what we did in part a.
 
  • #13
ok cool i think i got those parts anyways..but thanks for explaining them

how about e and f..any hints
 
  • #14
You need to use the definition of centripetal force.
 
  • #15
o ok..well that means that a = v^2/r
so 6.3^2/4.7 = 8.44m/s^2 right..how do i put that in x and y components

and for f its just mv^2/r right?
 

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