Angular Velocity and Acceleration

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The discussion revolves around a problem involving angular velocity and acceleration related to a car's deceleration. The original poster presents a scenario where a car traveling at a specific speed experiences negative acceleration, and the goal is to determine the number of revolutions the tires make before stopping, given the radius of the tires.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the relationship between linear and angular motion, questioning the constancy of angular velocity during deceleration. There are discussions about the correct application of angular motion equations and the implications of using average versus instantaneous values.

Discussion Status

The conversation is ongoing, with participants providing insights and questioning each other's reasoning. Some have suggested using specific equations for angular motion, while others emphasize the need to clarify the nature of angular velocity in this context. There is no explicit consensus yet on the approach to take.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating the complexities of angular motion under non-constant acceleration, and there is a focus on ensuring the correct interpretation of the variables involved. The original poster's calculations have been challenged, indicating a need for further exploration of the problem setup.

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Homework Statement


A car is traveling at 27.8 m/s, it undergoes a negative acceleration of 2.6 m/s/s when the brakes are applied. How many revolutions will the tires go through before the car comes to a stop if the wheels each have a radius of 1.0 m?

Homework Equations


α = at / r -> angular acceleration = tangential acceleration / radius
α = ω / t -> angular acceleration = angular velocity / time
α = Θ / t^2 -> angular acceleration = angle / time^2
ω = Θ / t -> angular velocity = angle / time
ω = v / r -> angular velocity = velocity / radius

The Attempt at a Solution


ω = v / r
ω = 27.8 / 1
ω = 27.8

α = a / r
α = (- 2.6) / 1
α = -2.6

α = ω / t
-2.6 = 27.8 / t
27.8 / 2.6 = t
10.7sec = t

ω = Θ / t
27.8 = Θ / 10.7
Θ = 297.46°

297.46 / 360 = 0.83 times

This was incorrect.
 
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df102015 said:
ω = Θ / t
27.8 = Θ / 10.7
Θ = 297.46°
Careful. ω is not a constant.
 
df102015 said:
ω = Θ / t
What, exactly, does dividing an angular displacement by an elapsed time give you? Yes, it's an angular velocity, but what angular velocity?
 
Doc Al said:
Careful. ω is not a constant.

i'm not sure what you mean by that... are you saying that ω is not 27.8 ?
How would i solve for ω the correct way?
 
haruspex said:
What, exactly, does dividing an angular displacement by an elapsed time give you? Yes, it's an angular velocity, but what angular velocity?
the angular velocity of the wheel?
 
df102015 said:
i'm not sure what you mean by that... are you saying that ω is not 27.8 ?
How would i solve for ω the correct way?
I assume you are familiar withthe SUVAT equations for linear motion at constant acceleration. It's just the same for angular motion.
 
df102015 said:
the angular velocity of the wheel?
As Doc Al posted, that is not constant here. So the angular velocity when?
 
haruspex said:
I assume you are familiar withthe SUVAT equations for linear motion at constant acceleration. It's just the same for angular motion.
Yes and so would i use Θ = ω t + 0.5 α t^2 ?
and ω would be the angular velocity of the wheel before deceleration?
 
df102015 said:
Yes and so would i use Θ = ω t + 0.5 α t^2 ?
and ω would be the angular velocity of the wheel before deceleration?
Yes.
 
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df102015 said:
Yes and so would i use Θ = ω t + 0.5 α t^2 ?
and ω would be the angular velocity of the wheel before deceleration?
You're given the linear velocity of the car before deceleration and the radius of the wheels. Don't you think that there is some formula which can relate these two pieces of information?
 
  • #11
SteamKing said:
You're given the linear velocity of the car before deceleration and the radius of the wheels. Don't you think that there is some formula which can relate these two pieces of information?
df102015 said:
ω = v / r
ω = 27.8 / 1
ω = 27
 

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