Angular Velocity: Pulley and belt system

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The discussion focuses on calculating the angular velocities of pulleys in a pulley and belt system. The user initially calculated the angular velocity of pulley D as 300 Rad/s but later questioned the consistency of this value with pulley B, which they thought should be 75 Rad/s due to their connection on the same shaft. Clarifications revealed that while pulleys B and D share the same angular velocity, their differing radii lead to different tangential velocities. The confusion stemmed from mixing up tangential and angular velocities, emphasizing the importance of understanding their relationship in mechanical systems. The conversation concludes with a resolution of the misunderstanding regarding the calculations.
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Homework Statement
Determine the angular velocity of Pulley B and C
Relevant Equations
## V = \omega r ##
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So far I have:

The velocity of the belt will be the same for pully A and D, so we can calculate the angular velocity of pulley D:

## V_A = V_B ##
## \omega_A r_A = \omega_D r_D ##
## ((20*3)+40)(0.075) = \omega_D (0.025) ##
## \omega_D = 300 Rad/s ##

My next step was to determine the angular velocity of pulley B. My thought was because pully B and pulley D are joined on the same shaft they must have the same velocity.
I determined ## \omega_B = 75 Rad/s ##.
However the solution found ## \omega_B = 300 Rad/s ##.
I don't understand how the larger pulley can have a higher velocity than the smaller pulley. Or why the velocity of pulley A is the same as pulley B. Can someone explain this?
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thatstheguy9 said:
Homework Statement:: Determine the angular velocity of Pulley B and C
Relevant Equations:: ## V = \omega r ##

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So far I have:

The velocity of the belt will be the same for pully A and D, so we can calculate the angular velocity of pulley D:

## V_A = V_B ##
## \omega_A r_A = \omega_D r_D ##
## ((20*3)+40)(0.075) = \omega_D (0.025) ##
## \omega_D = 300 Rad/s ##

My next step was to determine the angular velocity of pulley B. My thought was because they are joined on the same shaft they must have the same velocity.
I determined ## \omega_D = 75 Rad/s ##.
However the solution found ## \omega_D = 300 Rad/s ##.
I don't understand how the larger pulley can have a higher velocity than the smaller pulley. Or why the velocity of pulley A is the same as pulley B. Can someone explain this?
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You seem to have got yourself confused.
You found ## \omega_D = 300 Rad/s ##, but then changed it to ## \omega_D = 75 Rad/s ##
 
haruspex said:
You seem to have got yourself confused.
You found ## \omega_D = 300 Rad/s ##, but then changed it to ## \omega_D = 75 Rad/s ##
Apologies, I've corrected the original post.
 
thatstheguy9 said:
because they are joined on the same shaft
Which two are?
 
haruspex said:
Which two are?
Pulley B and D
 
thatstheguy9 said:
Pulley B and D
Ok, so if D's angular velocity is 300r/s what is B's?
 
haruspex said:
Ok, so if D's angular velocity is 300r/s what is B's?
I got 75 rad/s using:

## V_D = V_B ##
## \omega_D r_D = \omega_B r_B ##
## 300*0.025 = \omega_B * 0.100 ##
## \omega_B = 75 rad/s##
 
thatstheguy9 said:
I got 75 rad/s using:
## V_D = V_B##
Ok, I see. You posted
thatstheguy9 said:
My next step was to determine the angular velocity of pulley B. My thought was because pully B and pulley D are joined on the same shaft they must have the same velocity.
So I thought you meant they must have the same angular velocity. Which is true.
 
haruspex said:
Ok, I see. You posted

So I thought you meant they must have the same angular velocity. Which is true.
How can they have the same angular velocity when they have different radi?
Which brings me to my next point of confusion:
Why they have used the radius of pulley D to calculate the angular velocity of pulley B.
 
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thatstheguy9 said:
How can they have the same angular velocity when they have different radi?
They're attached rigidly to the same axle. If the axle completes one turn, how many turns, or what fraction of a turn, has each pulley turned?
 
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thatstheguy9 said:
How can they have the same angular velocity when they have different radi?
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Perhaps you are confusing tangential and angular velocitires.
 
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