Another proof of limit by definition

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Homework Help Overview

The original poster seeks to prove that as x approaches c, the limit of x squared equals c squared, using the formal definition of a limit. They also inquire about the implications for the limits of x cubed and x to the fourth power as x approaches c.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the original poster's attempt involving epsilon-delta definitions and question the rigor of their proof. They explore the factorization of x cubed and the implications for limits, while also considering how to apply the definition correctly without assuming results.

Discussion Status

There is active engagement as participants provide feedback on the original proof attempt and suggest alternative approaches. Some participants express uncertainty about how to maintain rigor while adhering to the definition of a limit.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the requirement to use only the definition of a limit, which influences the methods discussed. There is also mention of constraints regarding assumptions made about the values of x and c.

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Homework Statement


Prove that as x --> c, lim (x^2) = (c^2) using only the definition. What does this tell you about x --> c, lim (x^3) = (c^3)? x --> c, lim (x^4) = (c^4) ? Prove it.


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The definition of a limit.


The Attempt at a Solution


Let $\epsilon > 0$ be given and let $\delta=\sqrt{c^2 + \epsilon} - c$. Then, if $0 < |x - c| < \delta$, then
$|x^2 - c^2| = |x - c||x + c| < \delta|x + c|$.
Since $|x +c| --> 2c$, and $|\delta| --> 0$ their product can be made as small as you want, and we are done.

I think c^4 case goes right off c^2, but I have no idea where to start with c^3. Also, is there a way to make the proof above a little more rigorous?

Thanks!
 
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Not "$". Use [ tex ] and [ /tex ] (without the spaces which I put in so you could see the code itself.

x3- c3= (x- c)(x2+ cx+ c2)
 
HallsofIvy said:
Not "$". Use [ tex ] and [ /tex ] (without the spaces which I put in so you could see the code itself.

x3- c3= (x- c)(x2+ cx+ c2)

So x-c = \delta, and x2+ cx+ c2 --> 3c^2.

So if \delta = \frac{\epsilon}{3c^2}, that's good. But how do I write this rigorously?

Thanks again
 
Since you were specifically asked to do this "using only the definition", saying x2+ cx+ c2--> 3c2 may not be allowed.

What you can do is this: Assume that |x-c|< 1 so c-1< x< c+1. Then, assumin,temporarily, that 0<c-1, c2- 2c-1< x2< c2+ 2c+ 1 and c2- c< cx< c2+ c. Adding those, 3c2-c+ 1< x2+cx+ c2< 3c2+ 3c+ 1. Since you want (x-c)(x^2+ cx+ c^2&lt; \epsilon, you will want to use (x-c)(x^2+ cx+ c^2&lt; (x-1)(3c^2- c+ 1)&lt; \epsilon. Of course, in order to guarantee |x-c|< 1 you will have to say "let \delta be the smaller of 1 or ...
 

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