Ans. Speed of Light: Clarifying Experiments & Processes

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This discussion focuses on the speed of light and its implications in high energy physics, particularly through thought experiments like the light clock and the behavior of light in different media. The light clock demonstrates that the speed of light remains constant at "c" despite the clock's motion, as dictated by the principles of special relativity. Additionally, the conversation addresses the phenomenon of light slowing down in a medium, clarifying that this is due to the absorption and re-emission of photons by particles, rather than a change in the intrinsic speed of light. The discussion emphasizes that these concepts are supported by experimental evidence rather than theoretical assumptions.

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  • Understanding of special relativity and its implications on the speed of light.
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  • Basic concepts of photon absorption and re-emission in different media.
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Hello everyone! Recently my work has been more involved with high energy physics. I have been looking into some things, and I would like help with an understanding of the speed of light. So far, the main ideas I have seen have been thought experiments, with minor (if any) direction to experimental verification. I have two points, that if clarified, would help with my understanding.

1) One thought experiment that keeps coming up as an example is the light clock. The main idea is that a beam of light is reflecting off two mirrors, which can be interpreted as a clock. The thought experiment takes the same clock and gives it a transverse velocity (perpendicular to the direction of travel of the light in the clock). In the reference frame of the light clock, the period seems to be straightforwardly the same. However, looking in as an observer, the light clock will move in both the x and y directions. They go on to say that the time is distorted to allow for light to travel at "c". I do not see how the new speed does not become c'=sqrt(c^2+V_perpendicular^2) in the observer reference frame.

2) It is known that particles can exceed the speed of light in a medium (incurring Cerenkov losses along their path). What is the actual process for why the light is slowing down? Is it related to the light being absorbed and re-emitted from the particles in the medium (thus slowing it down?) or is it intrinsic to the mass actually interacting with the photons (or something else)? If the light is being absorbed and re-emitted, then we should see the lengthening of the pulse of light as it travels through a medium (I am basing this off nuclear absorption cross-sections for photons).
 
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ScienceGuy30 said:
I do not see how the new speed does not become c'=sqrt(c^2+V_perpendicular^2) in the observer reference frame.

You just gave the answer in your previous sentence. In the frame in which the light clock is moving, the light travels a distance ##\sqrt{x^2 + y^2}## from one mirror to the other, where ##x## is the distance the clock as a whole moves and ##y## is the distance between the mirrors. The light takes a time ##\sqrt{x^2 + y^2} / c## to travel this distance, according to this frame, so its speed remains ##c##.

Note that the above result is not dictated by theory; it's dictated by experiment. We use the theory of special relativity, in which the speed of light is invariant and moving objects appear time dilated, because that is the theory that matches experiments.

ScienceGuy30 said:
It is known that particles can exceed the speed of light in a medium (incurring Cerenkov losses along their path). What is the actual process for why the light is slowing down? Is it related to the light being absorbed and re-emitted from the particles in the medium (thus slowing it down?) or is it intrinsic to the mass actually interacting with the photons (or something else)?

These aren't really two different ways the light slowdown could happen; they're just two different descriptions of the same process. Mass interacting with photons is photons being absorbed and re-emitted.

ScienceGuy30 said:
If the light is being absorbed and re-emitted, then we should see the lengthening of the pulse of light as it travels through a medium

I don't know whether this is observed experimentally or not, but it's worth checking.
 
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