Answer: Solving Green's Th. Problem: Find Area of Region

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The problem involves finding the area of a region bounded by the curves y = 4x and y = 2x^3, with a focus on applying Green's theorem for the solution. Participants are exploring the appropriate methods for calculating the area and discussing the relevance of Green's theorem in this context.

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  • Some participants question the necessity of using Green's theorem, suggesting that a definite integral might suffice for finding the area. Others express confusion about the notation and integration setup used in the original post.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights into the use of Green's theorem and suggesting alternative approaches. There is recognition of the need to clarify the integration intervals and the setup of the integrals involved.

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There is mention of potential confusion regarding the curves and their intersections, as well as the notation used in the attempts at integration. Participants are also considering the symmetry of the region in question.

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Homework Statement


Find area of indicated region: S is bounded by the curves y = 4x and y = 2x^3

actual answer: 8/3

note: }a:b{ is what i mean by the definite integral

Homework Equations


A(s) = 1/2 }Green's Int{ (-ydx + xdy) = 1/2 }{ }{ (dN/dx - dM/dy)dxdy


The Attempt at a Solution



y' = 4
intersection: 4x = 2x^3 ---> x = sqrt(2)

A(s) = 1/2 }0:sqrt(2){ }4x:4{ (1 + 1) dydx

= 1/2 }0:sqrt(2){ (2(4) - 2(4x)) dx
= 1/2 (8(sqrt(2)) - 4(2))
= 4(sqrt(2)) - 4
(not equal to 8/3)

sorry bare with me i don't totally understand the theorem but i tried
 
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Uh, why is there a need to use Green's theorem to solve this? Couldn't you just find the area by means of a definite integral? I thought Green's theorem only applied to line integrals of vector functions/fields?
 
intersection: 4x = 2x^3 ---> x = sqrt(2)

I'm not quite sure what you were trying to do (the notation you used is poor, so I have no idea what's being integrated, etc.) but at the top you had the curves as 4x and 2x^2, so the intersection would occur at x=2
 
yes u can just integrate the easier way, but the point is to use greens theorem, oops its y = 2x^3

the question wants me to use this equation to solve it:
ok ill use I(a,b) as the integral

I(Greens) (-y/2 dx + x/2 dy) = I I (1/2 + 1/2) dA = A(s)

i guess my real question is how do u find the intervals on which you integrate the double integral
 
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Using Green's theorem, it's easy to show that the area of the region enclosed by the closed path C is \int_C x dy or \int_C -ydx.

I also note that y= 4x and y= 2x3 intersect at (-\sqrt{2},-4\sqrt{2}), (0, 0), and (-\sqrt{2},-4\sqrt{2}) so the region has two symmetric regions, one in the first quadrant and one in the third quadrant. I would recommend finding the area of the one in the first quadrant and doubling.

\int_C -ydx divides into two integrals: On y= 2x3, it is \int_0^{\sqrt{2}} -2x^3 dx. On y= 4x, it is \int_{\sqrt{2}}^0 -4xdx.
 

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