Ansys- two layers adhered to each other

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The discussion revolves around modeling two layers adhered to each other in Ansys, specifically focusing on how to apply boundary conditions when a force is applied to the first layer. The scope includes technical explanations and practical application within the software.

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Main Points Raised

  • Raj seeks guidance on how to set boundary conditions for two layers adhered to each other in Ansys when a force is applied.
  • Some participants propose three methods for modeling the layers, emphasizing the importance of treating each layer as a separate volume or area and ensuring appropriate meshing.
  • One method suggests using solid element types for better bending results if the layers are small.
  • Another approach involves using contact elements to define adhesion between the two surfaces, but this requires frictional coefficients.
  • Raj expresses concern about the need for frictional coefficients, stating that the layers are rigidly adhered with no slip under the applied force.
  • One participant clarifies that frictional coefficients are not necessary for rigid contacts and suggests using coupling commands instead.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants have differing views on the necessity of frictional coefficients for modeling the adhesion between the layers, indicating a lack of consensus on the best approach to define the boundary conditions.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved aspects regarding the specific boundary conditions that can be used for perfect adhesion and the implications of using different modeling methods.

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Hello,
I am new to ansys. I am trying to model two layers adhered to each other and a force being applied to the first kayer. How do I pput in the boundary conditions for the two layers "adhered" to each other.
Thanks.
Raj
 
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Really depends on exactly what you're trying to measure. There are three methods I can think of listed here in increasing difficulty and accuracy
  1. Make sure that each layer is it's own volume or area. Mesh each one separately but make sure that they share lines or areas at the split.
  2. If the layers are small and you are looking for good bending results. Then consider the use of one of the solid element types which allows for multiple layers to be defined.
  3. Lastly, you can go back to the first method, but make sure that they do not share lines and areas. Then connect the two region with contact elements. This allows you to define the adhesion between the two surfaces.
 
Thank you very much minger. Actually, I was wondering how to model the boundary conditions. "contact" option requires frictional coefficients to be defined but here the two layers are "rigidly" adhered to each other and I don't have any the frictional coeffs between the two surfaces. I know that there is "no slip" (perfect adhesion) under the applied force. Is there some specific boundary condition that can be used for this. How will that be done? Thanks again. I really appreciate your help.
 
You only need frictional coefficients for frictional contact. You can also use rigid contacts (see coupling commands in the help manual).
 

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