Any quick tricks to multiplying by powers?

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The discussion revolves around finding a quick method to evaluate the expression ((1/3 + x/2 + x^3/6))^3, specifically focusing on determining the coefficient of x^3. The conversation includes elements of mathematical reasoning and exploration of multinomial coefficients.

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  • One participant seeks a quick method to evaluate the expression and find the coefficient of x^3.
  • Another participant introduces the concept of multinomial coefficients and suggests using the multinomial theorem to find the coefficient.
  • There is a discussion about the different ways to obtain x^3, specifically through combinations of terms a^2c and b^3.
  • One participant expresses confusion regarding the calculation of coefficients and the reasoning behind multiplying certain terms by specific coefficients.
  • Clarifications are provided regarding the calculation of multinomial coefficients for the terms involved.

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Participants express differing levels of understanding and clarity regarding the application of multinomial coefficients, and there is no consensus on the final coefficient of x^3. The discussion remains unresolved with ongoing questions about the calculations.

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Some participants reference specific calculations and terms without fully resolving the assumptions or steps involved in the multinomial expansion. There is uncertainty about the correctness of the derived coefficients.

tamintl
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Hey guys

Basically I want to evaluate ((1/3 +x/2 +x3/6))3

But instead of doing the long hand is there any way off doing this quickly? Basically I was wanting to find the coefficient of x3?

So you any tricks because I seem to remember doing something like 3(1/3*1/2*1/6) +... can't remember..

Thanks in advance!
Regards
Tam
 
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What you want are called 'multinomial coefficients' - here's a link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multinomial_theorem#Multinomial_coefficients

For your problem, if you consider this of the form (a+b+c)^3, there are two ways to get x^3, you can have a^2*c, or you can have b^3. The coefficients of these will be :

Coef(a^2 c) = 3!/(2! 0! 1!) , and
Coef(b^3) = 3!(0! 3! 0!)

Hopefully from there you can work out the coefficient of x^3. If you do that, what do you get?
 
Thanks.. Okay we need:Ʃn!/p!q!r! For apbqcr

So does that give us the coeff of x3 = 3 + 1 = 4... doesn't seem right...

Any help would be great!?

Thanks
 
No, you need:

(1) c^3 + (3) a^2 c =

(1) (x/2)^3 + (3) (1/3)^2 (x^3/6) = (What) x^3
 
phyzguy said:
No, you need:

(1) c^3 + (3) a^2 c =

(1) (x/2)^3 + (3) (1/3)^2 (x^3/6) = (What) x^3

Okay using what you wrote I get 13/72. This is correct as I have checked with my answer.. However I am unsure of why you multiplied b3 by (1) and a2c by (3)?

Thanks for you help
Regards
Tam
 
These are the multinomial coefficients, n!/(p! q! r!), like you wrote in your earlier post,

for a^2 c, n=3, p=2, q=0, r=1, so n!/(p! q! r!) = 3!/(2! 0! 1!) = 3

for b^3, n=3, p=0 q=3, r=0, so n!/(p! q! r!) = 3!/(0! 3! 0!) = 1
 

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