Applications of complex gamma (or beta) functions in physics?

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The discussion centers on the applications of complex gamma and beta functions in physics, exploring their relevance in various theoretical frameworks, particularly in string theory and quantum physics. Participants seek to understand the role of these functions when extended to complex variables and their implications for physical applications.

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  • One participant references a paper discussing physical applications of the beta function related to the gamma function, questioning the use of non-real complex values in physical applications.
  • Another participant mentions the Veneziano amplitude in physics, which is a beta function of real variables but is derived from integrals over a 2-dimensional string world-sheet described using complex analysis.
  • There is a discussion about whether the string theory description directly incorporates the beta function over complex variables, with some participants suggesting that the connection may be indirect.
  • One participant argues that while observables in physics are real, complex variables appear frequently in quantum physics, prompting a search for equations where gamma or beta functions range over complex domains.
  • Dimensional regularization in quantum field theory is mentioned as an example where analytic continuation in the complex plane is involved, with gamma functions of complex variables being used, although the focus remains on real arguments.
  • A participant expresses skepticism about the existence of direct applications of complex gamma or beta functions in physics if no examples can be provided.

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Participants express differing views on the directness of the connection between complex variables and physical applications of gamma and beta functions. While some acknowledge the indirect nature of these connections, others argue for the prevalence of complex variables in quantum physics, leaving the discussion unresolved regarding specific applications.

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Participants note that while physical observables are real, the use of complex variables in theoretical frameworks may not have a straightforward connection to measurable quantities. There is also an acknowledgment of the limitations in providing concrete examples of complex gamma or beta functions in physical applications.

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All the applications I have found for physical applications of the gamma seem to be, to my untrained eye, only for real z (and mostly positive), with the Riemann zeta function being the only obvious exception. What am I missing?
An example of physical applications for the gamma (or beta) function(s) is
http://sces.phys.utk.edu/~moreo/mm08/Riddi.pdf
(I refer to the beta function related to the gamma function, not the other functions with this name)
The applications in Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamma_function#Applications
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beta_function#Applications
seem also to be for real numbers (without non-positive integers), and mostly positive, except of course for the Riemann zeta function.
This is likely due to a lack of depth on my part, so could anyone indicate at least briefly where non-real complex values might be in the domain of a gamma function used in a physical application? Associated links with fuller explanations, while not absolutely necessary, are always an appreciated extra bonus. Thanks.
 
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The Veneziano amplitude in physics is a Beta function of real variables (momenta of particles). However, in string theory this amplitude is derived from certain integrals over the 2-dimensional string world-sheet naturally described in terms of complex analysis.
 
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Thanks, Demystifier.

If I understand correctly, the string theory description of the world-sheet includes the Beta function over complex variables?
[That is, it is not the case that the connection is only indirect:
classical description: Beta (but no complex)
string theory description: complex (but no Beta).]
 
nomadreid said:
Thanks, Demystifier.

If I understand correctly, the string theory description of the world-sheet includes the Beta function over complex variables?
[That is, it is not the case that the connection is only indirect:
classical description: Beta (but no complex)
string theory description: complex (but no Beta).]
No, I would say the connection is only indirect. It's probably not what you are interested in. But I'm not sure, because I don't know why are you interested in complex variables in the first place. Physically measurable quantities are always real, so it's hard to expect a "direct connection" (whatever that means) of complex variables to physics.
 
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Thanks, Demystifier. But as far as I can see, variables over ℂn seem to be all over the place in quantum physics. That is, obviously the observables are real, but the connection doesn't have to be that direct. In other words, are there equations in which Gamma must range over ℂ (or Beta over ℂ2)?

For some examples as to how indirect I would be satisfied with:
https://physics.stackexchange.com/q...ons-of-a-complex-variable-used-for-in-physics
 
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nomadreid said:
Thanks, Demystifier. But as far as I can see, variables over ℂn seem to be all over the place in quantum physics. That is, obviously the observables are real, but the connection doesn't have to be that direct. In other words, are there equations in which Gamma must range over ℂ (or Beta over ℂ2)?

For some examples as to how indirect I would be satisfied with:
https://physics.stackexchange.com/q...ons-of-a-complex-variable-used-for-in-physics
In the link someone mentioned dimensional regularization in QFT, which involves analytic continuation in complex plane. These dimensional regulated quantities are often expressed in terms of Gamma functions of complex variables. But in the end, it seems that one again is only interested in real arguments of the gamma function.
 
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Thanks again, Demystifier. I suspect that if you do not know of any, then they probably don't exist. (Mark of high esteem.)
 
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