Applications of integration: Area and boundaries? (can't understand so

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The discussion revolves around integral calculus, specifically focusing on calculating the center of gravity for an area bounded by two functions and the axes. The functions involved are f(x) = 2x√x and g(x) = -2x + 24, with a known intersection point at (4, 16). The original poster expresses confusion about the boundaries and the reasoning behind the calculations.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to understand the problem by identifying the area bounded by the functions and the axes. They question how to determine the boundaries and express uncertainty about their reasoning process. Some participants suggest breaking the problem into smaller parts and emphasize the importance of visualizing the graph.

Discussion Status

The discussion has progressed with participants providing guidance on plotting the graph and recognizing the shape of the area involved. The original poster has gained clarity on the boundaries and the nature of the area, allowing them to move forward with the calculations for the center of gravity.

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The original poster mentions a lack of foundational knowledge in math, which may impact their understanding of the problem. There is also a reference to specific equations for calculating the center of gravity, though these are not detailed in the discussion.

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Hey! I'm a complete newbie to integral calculus (and well, to math in general - but I'm trying to learn!) and I have a bit of a problem. I already get the feeling that the solution is ridiculously simple, but my brain just isn't making the connection.

Homework Statement


Given are two functions: f(x) = 2x√x and g(x) = -2x + 24 that intersect at points (4, 16)
Problem: Calculate the center of gravity bounded by the two axes and graph of g(x).

Homework Equations


The teacher's solution gives the equation A: 1/2 * 12 * 24 = 144 and the integral boundaries are defined from 0 to 12.

The Attempt at a Solution


Well, the answer is known but my problem is that I can't figure out how it got there. I do know that if an area is bounded by a graph of a function and an axis, then one of the boundaries is set at 0... But I feel that I'm missing something very basic (which wouldn't surprise me, since my math education until now is pretty, uh, bad.)
I guess the problem is that I don't know how to actually *think* about the problem, I'm just aimlessly playing around with the numbers (16 - 4 makes 12! x is 12! Is that the boundary? Why? I don't know!)

If you could kick me in the right direction I would appreciate it a lot! ^^ Thank you.
 
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Hello Pop and welcome to PF.

You're not all that new to math: if you can count, add and subtract, that's quite a bit already!

Some general advice: if confronted with a big problem, chop it up into small pieces and start with one of them.
In this case, f(x) doesn't appear in the actual question. Only g. You can plot it easily: straight line. x=0 gives (0, 24) g=0 gives x = 12, so (12, 0).

You are asked to calculate the center of gravity. What is a releveant equation when you have to do that?
 
Hey, thank you a lot for your reply! :)

I realized, indeed, that after plotting out the graph, the area in question becomes the area of a triangle between the x- and y-coordinates. Additionally the boundaries became clear as well. And that answers my big question.

This then allows me to proceed with the problem, solving the coordinates for the center of gravity by the known equations for x_z and y_z. :) This part is no problem, just integration.

Thank you again so much! This was just what I needed.
 
You're welcome :redface:
 

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