Applied Linear Algebra problem

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The discussion revolves around the properties of symmetric 2x2 matrices, specifically whether a nonzero symmetric matrix can have the property that its square equals the zero matrix. The original poster presents a matrix and explores the implications of its structure in relation to this property.

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  • The original poster attempts to derive the conditions under which a symmetric matrix squared could equal the zero matrix, leading to a conclusion about the impossibility of such a matrix existing with nonzero entries. Other participants engage in clarifying the definition of nonzero matrices and explore examples.

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The discussion includes confirmations of the original poster's analysis, with some participants providing examples and seeking clarification on terminology. There is an ongoing exploration of the properties of matrices without a clear consensus on the broader implications.

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Participants note the importance of distinguishing between symmetric and nonsymmetric matrices, as well as the specific requirement that the matrix must be nonzero. There is an acknowledgment that the original question does not have a provided solution in the reference material.

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the question:

the matrix

1 -1
1 -1

has the property that A2 = 0. Is it possible for a nonzero symmetric 2x2 matrix to have this property? Prove your answer.

my work:

for a 2x2 matrix A to be its own inverse, it has to have the form

a b
b a

This squared is

(a2 + b 2) (2ab)
(2ab) (a2 + b2)

(things in parenthesis are their own elements -- it won't save the spaces)

Because there are no real numbers so that a2 + b2 = 0, there is no 2x2 symmetric matrix that has its square equal to the zero vector.

edit: ^^ other than a = 0, and b = 0, which would be a 2x2 zero matrix -- something taken to account in the statement of the question

Is this right? My book doesn't have a solution for this one
 
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How about

\left( {\begin{array}{*{20}{c}}<br /> 2 &amp; 4 \\<br /> { - 1} &amp; { - 2} \\<br /> \end{array}} \right)

nonzero symmetric 2x2 matrix

Edit
Sorry I thought you meant a nonsymmetric matrix. What do you mean by this?
 
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anonymity, yes, your analysis is correct.
 
How did you write that matrix in physicsforum's latex?!

And by nonzero they just mean it's not

0 0
0 0


Thanks for responding hallsofivy
 
How did you write that matrix in physicsforum's latex?!

Click on the "quote" box in hallsofivy's post and look at how he wrote the matrix in your message composer window.
 
Stephen Tashi said:
Click on the "quote" box in hallsofivy's post and look at how he wrote the matrix in your message composer window.

Very clever. Thank you ^
 

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