Applying force to an object of equal mass, finding required force?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the acceleration of a sled being pushed by a football player applying a force of 600 N, while accounting for friction and drag of 99.5 N. The total mass of the system, including the second student and the sled, is 113.2 kg. The calculated acceleration is 4.42 m/s², derived from the net force of 500.5 N using the formula F=ma. Additionally, the force required for the football player to push against the ground is determined using the same principles of force and mass.

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Homework Statement



The homework question is:
"A large football player student (1.0 x 10^2 kg) applies a 6.0 x 10^2 N force to another equally burly student (1.0 x 10^2 kg) sitting on a sled (13.2 kg). If sliding friction and air resistance (drag) is 99.5 N, find the acceleration of the sled. In addition, how much force does the football player need to apply to the ground to accomplish this feat? Remember, he needs to get himself moving too!"

This is probably very easy but my teacher has been away for a week and we aren't supplied textbooks, and unfortunately the supply teachers we've had haven't been very proficient in physics.

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Not sure.

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The only thing we've done is very very basic stuff like calculating net force when already given the values, so I'm not really sure how to even approach this.

Can someone please explain how to go about this? I'm not really asking for you to solve it for me, because I'd like to learn how to go about these questions, but if you'd think it would help to treat this as a sample question then by all means!

Thank you!

*edit!

I think I know how to get acceleration, it's F=Fa-Ff=600-99.5=500.5N
so f=ma
a=f/m
a=500.5N/113.2kg
a=4.42 m/s^2

I'm hoping that's correct, anyway!

I'm still not sure how to find the force, though.
 
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gerard.caleb said:
I'm still not sure how to find the force, though.
Same eqn, F=ma, but now you want the acceleration from the first part, the net force on the first student and that student's mass.
 

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