Arc Length integration always unusually difficult? Any special trick?

Click For Summary
SUMMARY

Finding the arc length of the function defined by the equation 8x² = 27y³ from 1 to 8 involves using the arc length formula, which incorporates the derivative of the function. The derivative, calculated as y' = 4/(9x^(1/3)), is substituted into the integral L = ∫_1^8 √(1 + (y')²) dx. A u-substitution with u = 81x^(2/3) + 16 simplifies the integral, ultimately yielding an arc length of approximately 7.28. The discussion emphasizes the importance of careful calculation and suggests that many calculus textbooks simplify problems by choosing appropriate functions for easier integration.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of arc length formula in calculus
  • Proficiency in integration techniques, including u-substitution
  • Familiarity with derivatives and their applications
  • Knowledge of hyperbolic functions and their properties
NEXT STEPS
  • Study advanced integration techniques, focusing on u-substitution
  • Explore the properties of hyperbolic functions and their arc lengths
  • Practice finding arc lengths of various functions, including polynomial and trigonometric functions
  • Review calculus textbooks for strategies on simplifying integrals
USEFUL FOR

Students and educators in calculus, mathematicians focusing on integration techniques, and anyone seeking to improve their problem-solving skills in arc length calculations.

B3NR4Y
Gold Member
Messages
170
Reaction score
1
I don't understand why finding the arc length is always difficult. I understand the formula and know pretty much all the integration methods, but whenever I try to find the arc length of a function like 8x2 = 27y3 from 1 to 8 it's unusually difficult.
I would start by solving for x
\begin{equation}
\begin{split}
&\frac{2}{3} x^{\frac{2}{3}} = y\\
&\frac{4}{9x^{\frac{1}{3}}} = y'\\
\end{split}
\end{equation}
Now I add this into the integration formula \int_a^b \sqrt{1+(y')^{2}} \, dx
\begin{equation}<br /> \begin{split}<br /> L^{8}_{1} &amp;= \int_1^8 \, \sqrt{1+ (\frac{4}{9x^{\frac{1}{3}}})^{2}} \, dx \\<br /> &amp;= \int_1^8 \, \sqrt{1+ (\frac{16}{81x^{\frac{2}{3}}})} \, dx \\ <br /> &amp;= \int_1^8 \sqrt{\frac{81x^{\frac{2}{3}}+16}{81x^{\frac{2}{3}}}} \, dx \\<br /> &amp;= \int_1^8 \frac{\sqrt{81x^{\frac{2}{3}}+16}}{9x^{\frac{1}{3}}} \, dx<br /> \end{split}<br /> \end{equation}
From here I would do a u-substitution of u=81x^{\frac{2}{3}}+16 and then take the derivative to find \frac{1}{54} du = \frac{1}{x^{\frac{1}{3}}} dx
My new limits would be 97 and 340
\begin{equation}
\begin{split}
L^{8}_{1} &= \frac{1}{9*54} \int_{97}^{340} \sqrt{u} \, du \\
&= \frac{1}{486} \Bigg(\frac{3}{2} u^{\frac{3}{2}} |^{97}_{340} \Bigg) \\
&=7.28... \\
\end{split}
\end{equation}
I got the question right, by going slowly and typing it all out, derp. Anyway, is there a special trick for these types of problems? Or is it to just go slow and remember rules.
 
Last edited by a moderator:
Physics news on Phys.org
Those are often messy because of the form of the integrals.
Many calculus books choose y to make the integral simple.
Even simple y live x^3, sin(x), and 1/x give non-elementary integrals.
 
Finding the arc length of the hyperbolic cosine curve is, however, fairly trivial.
:smile:
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
3K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
2K
  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
2K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
2K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
3K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
2K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
4K
  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
1K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
2K
  • · Replies 7 ·
Replies
7
Views
389