Arc Length Problem Find 0 ≤ x ≤ 3

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves finding the arc length of the function y = x * e^(x^6) over the interval 0 ≤ x ≤ 3. Participants are exploring the implications of the function's behavior and the challenges in calculating the arc length.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • One participant attempts to compute the arc length using the derivative and integration, but encounters issues with calculator overload and an unexpected result from Wolfram. Others question the correctness of the function and explore the implications of the arc length being extremely large.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights and questioning assumptions about the function and the integration process. Some guidance has been offered regarding the nature of the function and its arc length, but no consensus has been reached on the exact approach or interpretation.

Contextual Notes

Participants are considering the potential for errors in the function's formulation and the implications of numerical integration. There is a suggestion that the area of integration may need to be revisited.

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Homework Statement


Find the arc length of y=x*e^(x^6) where 0 ≤ x ≤ 3


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The Attempt at a Solution


I took the derivative of the equation and squared it to get (e^2(x^6))(1+12(x^6)+36(x^12)) then plugged it into the proper formula to get:
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∫√(1+(e^2(x^6))(1+12(x^6)+36(x^12))) dx
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I tried to plug it into my calculator but got the error message "Overload". I then tried Wolfram and got the answer 1.19685...*10^317, which seemed very extraneous.
One problem I thought about was maybe my area of integration was off, but couldn't think of another solution. Any suggestions or see any flaws?
 
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Are you sure you copied the function correctly?

ehild
 
absolutely sure...
 
If it is so, you can not find the anti-derivative in closed form, and the arc length will be extremely great. It is certainly greater then the distance between the points (1,y(1)) and (3,y(3)) which is about 4˙10^316. Was not it x(e^x)^6 instead?

ehild
 
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The error is lost in the noise... the answer to a high degree of precision is 3*e^(3^6).

Rationale: it is a monotonic function, so the answer is bounded below by the length of the diagonal and above by the Manhattan distance. Both of those are also approx the above number.
 
Numerical integration on the bottom part of the curve should suggest exactly how much greater than y(3) the arc length is. Hint: it's less than 1.
 
Then the answer I stated above isn't as out there as I thought it might have been?
 
The answer Wolfram gave is numerically correct.

It's more interesting to find the answer relative to y(3), since for practical purposes y(3) is the answer anyway.
 

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